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Yep, Shaid here.... i opened a chip shop with the bag of spuds that had grown on my shoulder. I'm making a very profitable income now. Thanks lunds of SN. It's nice to know that the lunds of SN think of me everytime there's a Muslim on the news. It's a shame it's only for the bad Muslims though ![Frown](images/smilies/frown.gif)
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Unfortunately there is no way i can defend this one. Most of you folk are right. These shabab guys are a bunch of *****.I have met the wife of one of the warlords. Some nasty things go on there.
I'm no fan of al shabab and even though i would love to disagree with most comments (as some of you guys are usually misinformed and full of ****) andfor arguments sake unfortunately on this occasion i can't. However i'm sure some of you can somehow twist it so that i am not only supporting them financially, but i must be recruiting for them in Birmingham's Somalian community and i'm enjoying Shisha and Kebabs with the leader every Tuesday evening too.
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Unfortunately there is no way i can defend this one. Most of you folk are right. These shabab guys are a bunch of *****.I have met the wife of one of the warlords. Some nasty things go on there.
I'm no fan of al shabab and even though i would love to disagree with most comments (as some of you guys are usually misinformed and full of ****) andfor arguments sake unfortunately on this occasion i can't. However i'm sure some of you can somehow twist it so that i am not only supporting them financially, but i must be recruiting for them in Birmingham's Somalian community and i'm enjoying Shisha and Kebabs with the leader every Tuesday evening too.
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That's right, letting one person walk away because they follow one religion while shooting the next person For following a different religion does not have anything to do with religion Martin.
I can't believe you just said that.
I can't believe you just said that.
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This has nothing whatsoever to do with religion, this is the murderous act of twisted individuals. Their religion didn't urge them to do this, they chose to.
To blame this on religion is an afront to people with faith (and i don't include myself in that)
Stop using this terrible situation as a stick to beat religion with!
To blame this on religion is an afront to people with faith (and i don't include myself in that)
Stop using this terrible situation as a stick to beat religion with!
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Martin's point is perfectly valid.
The troubles are caused by the people concerned and their own personal wishes.
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Martins point is not valid, are you saying Muslims targeting non Muslims in a non Muslim country about problems that's happening in a Muslim country isn't religion related?
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I can't really say this is about religion as I know a few proper Muslims and when we discuss these things that's been going on in Kenya at work they always say to me that these kind of men do not represent the Muslim faith as it does not teach these things and just call these men what they are terrorist and mad men using the title of Islam to incite a so called racial stir up.SJ.
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I can't really say this is about religion as I know a few proper Muslims and when we discuss these things that's been going on in Kenya at work they always say to me that these kind of men do not represent the Muslim faith as it does not teach these things and just call these men what they are terrorist and mad men using the title of Islam to incite a so called racial stir up.SJ.
Yeah, but some people sillygistically think/argue that Muslim means Islamist.
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Blaming their actions on religion is crass, and actually gives them a cop-out they should never be given.
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So what makes these people any different from any other Religion based attack then?
Anyhow, looks like that's it done a dusted going by the comments the President of Nairobi just made on Sky news, hope so anyway.
Anyhow, looks like that's it done a dusted going by the comments the President of Nairobi just made on Sky news, hope so anyway.
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These people were blessed with free-will and chose to use that to kill innocent people, god didn't make them do that, neither did religion, THEY DID IT ALL BY THEMSELVES.
Blaming their actions on religion is crass, and actually gives them a cop-out they should never be given.
Blaming their actions on religion is crass, and actually gives them a cop-out they should never be given.
I did ask above if the religion positively ordered them to kill others.
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"Mall Massacre" will be available on GTA in 12 months, mark my words.
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Exactly. What did that super extremist Hitler use for his extreme terrorism? He said he was an atheist, but he still caused one of the worst terrors of the history, didn't he? IMO he was a paranoid fcukwit with a toothbrush moosh.
Mind you, some people argue that he was the way he was because his ideology grew out of a religion. Some also say that this Islamist terrorism has grown out of Hitlerism, actually. One doesn't know what to believe.
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By being my 'usual self' I assume you mean applying logic and reason AS ALWAYS! Rather than your approach which a appears to throw around spurious arguments mixed up with emotion and a good measure of hyperbole
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I think by being 'your usual self', possibly being that you are right and everyone else is wrong, as always.
You can't say for sure whether these evil people had religion as a cause to do this, as perhaps we can't say for certain that they did.
Maybe now it appears some have been captured, they'll tell us if they did it in the name of Allah, Jesus, or Ronald McDonald.
Time will tell.
You can't say for sure whether these evil people had religion as a cause to do this, as perhaps we can't say for certain that they did.
Maybe now it appears some have been captured, they'll tell us if they did it in the name of Allah, Jesus, or Ronald McDonald.
Time will tell.
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I think by being 'your usual self', possibly being that you are right and everyone else is wrong, as always.
You can't say for sure whether these evil people had religion as a cause to do this, as perhaps we can't say for certain that they did.
Maybe now it appears some have been captured, they'll tell us if they did it in the name of Allah, Jesus, or Ronald McDonald.
Time will tell.
You can't say for sure whether these evil people had religion as a cause to do this, as perhaps we can't say for certain that they did.
Maybe now it appears some have been captured, they'll tell us if they did it in the name of Allah, Jesus, or Ronald McDonald.
Time will tell.
That's not the fault of religion though.
Why is that so hard to understand?
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It's their interpretation of their religion - it's what they believe their religion is telling them - if religion didn't exist would they have done it?
Why is THAT so hard to understand?
You see - you're not right, and possibly neither am I.
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Who made the religion, though? We need to look at it.