BoozyDave

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my 5 and 9 year olds both play it, i can't see the problem myself, they know right from wrong and know good from bad

we never swear at home or while kids are present. but there are some scrubbers that take their kids to school and tell their kids to 'f**king shut up' or 'stop f**king swearing'

would i be more responsible if i didn't let my kids play on gta and just spoke to them like that?

BoozyDave

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so you never tasted alcohol until you turned 18? you never had sex until 16? never watched a film rated older than you were at the time?

if so, you should be locked up for being a boing c**t

donny andi

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Teaching a kid to ride quads....right or wrong....could be the future car thief
Or teaching him to shoot ....gun and having it all modified cost me £800....right or wrong.....suppose he could turn round and shoot me

You see the above are real life.......gta is a fooooking game
Locked up.....

donny andi

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Must just be us northerners
I'm just going to wake him up and send him to the 24hr esso for a packet of **** and a 4 pack of Stella ......think it's shift change at donny cop shop so I'll let him nip round on his quad with a note for the **** and beer

Boro

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http://kotaku.com/grand-theft-auto-b...gra-1201375715

donny andi

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Don't worry my friend.......my little lad loves me


I let him have all the big boy toys

Boro

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Martin2005

There we lots of his school mates playing it, you can see who's on and what they're playing. I was shocked

Lisawrx

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How about don't talk to them like that and don't let kids that young play on GTA? Why does it have to be either/or?

And 4yrs old???? To be honest, at that age, I don't think a child would really comprehend a game like GTA and what it's all about, hopefully. However, I still don't personally think a child so young should be exposed to the level of violence and adult content that game has. Just my opinion, and if you don't like it, you shouldn't really have put a comment on that was bound to get a response. Ultimately it is your child to raise as you see fit, and if you think exposing a young and at that age, little innocent mind to that game, it's up to you.

I'm actually a firm believer that watching adult films or playing adult games doesn't turn kids into nutters if raised to understand right from wrong/fact from fiction, but I also believe that kids should be allowed to be kids for a while too and just enjoy the stuff aimed at them/or a similar age. Why is there such a rush to expose them to 'grown up' stuff?

chopperman

I say it depends on the kid. My kids have always played GTA COD ect. I played GTA V the other night with my 12 year old daughter. These games have never had a negative impact on any of my kids who are polite well behaved and happy. I'm sure letting other kids who are not as well balanced play these games could be a bad idea. I think a lot of the problem with video games is not so much the game content but more the amount of time they play them. Some kids spend there whole life in this virtual video world. Everything in moderation as they say.

pimmo2000

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That's very aggressive hit a sore spot ?, I guess his mother is wrong too, being she doesn't want him to play it.

In my opinion children have an innocence, it may not make them steal and kill, but it takes that away from them.

I don't want my 4 year old to know about swear words, prostitutes, torture, gang violence, murder, all the things that make GTA great, I know they will at some point, but the longer I can shield it from them, the better job I've done.

Oh and for the record, a troll post, is not calling you a troll

RA Dunk

I'm with Pimmo on this, a four year old playing games rated 18 is just wrong, do you let the kid watch movies rated 18 as well?

Dingdongler

It takes a lot for me to comment on how somebody else raises their kids because all situations and children are different and I'm far from perfect as a father

But frankly letting a 4 year old play a game like that is disgusting and sickening. There is absolutely NO reason to expose a child of that age to such blatantly adult themes.

This will sound horribly judgemental but I seriously question whether you are fit to be a parent

Peedee

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Either your trolling or your a complete ****. Probably the latter.

Obviously you were raised the wrong way. Argue all you like, but I was brought up knowing right from wrong and taught morals from an early age. My parents NEVER let me watch 18 rated films or play 18 rated games, it was sonic and mario for me, and I had far too much fun playing in the street and making 'dens' to even care about rated films, alcohol etc.


Just because you were obviously a little $hit when you were younger, doesnt mean everyone else's kids should follow suit, thus being 'boring *****' as you put it.

Now run along, go cook your kids some chicken nuggets and chips and stick them in front of the playstation for the rest of the evening whilst you get pissed on blue-nun and play your music loud.

tubbytommy

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having played gta 5 id say you were a very irresponsible parent letting your child play it.

if you're happy with your 12 year old speaking and acting like something from gta 5 then that explains the jeremy kyle generation.

BoozyDave

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I must have been a little **** I am from a good working family, I was brought up well. I also used to make dens and go biking through the woods.
You seem to think I'm a Jeremy Kyle wannabe, from a council estate, but I'm not, I'm an electrician and buying my House in a nice quiet location.

tubbytommy

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a 12 year old shouldnt be exposed to the content in gta5.

you may not have been a little **** but id say youre a bad parent.



my opinion of course.

RobsyUK

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If i had children i wouldnt let them play or see me playing an 18yr game as i wouldnt let them watch an 18 movie. Id have to think long and hard about watching a 15 infront of them.

I genuinely think that xbox and sony need to get online listen to the kids playing and block their accounts remotly. These big companies know the parents will give in to the pressures of the children as most - not all and especially no scooby netter parent would buy the ame and leave their child in a room knowing they can have some quiet time.

I havent played xbox in about a year and still on MW3..

tubbytommy

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the best thing about this post is the fact you dont have children robsy.

GlesgaKiss

I always thought my parents were quite strict about stuff like this, but I think 12 was about tha age I got to watch Predator and some other films like that. Also used to play the demo for the first GTA and then they bought me the game. I haven't ended up being a car jacker/murderer or anything. It's obviously your call to make, but I think there is a big difference between knowing about something and wanting to do it. 12 is an age when you really start wanting to know what stuff is about and trying to find out with or without your parents' acceptance.

The only difference between me and your child's situation is probably how lifelike the game actually is. If you remember the first one, it was very cartoonish and didn't have anything like the detail of being able to go and pick up hookers etc. Maybe it is more unsuitable for that reason.

Miniman

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This will no doubt be a tl:dr for some :-(

My lad is 12 and no he's not playing GTA.

Doesn't even know I have it. Knows I have CoD and some other 18 games. Not much grief yet about GTA, but in the past I've had a lot over CoD (hence the hiding GTA). Apparently little Jonny is allowed to play CoD.

I've been a gamer for ever, consoles and PC's. And being over 40 means I've been playing games for years.

I also now have a 12 y.o boy and a 9 y.o girl. Also the house is full of gadgets, Xbox's, Wii, tablets, ipod Touch's, DS's, etc. And I bet some think my kids are couch potatoes and we use the games and TV as a convenient nanny. Well we don't, but I won't go into kids being active as that is another parental thread.

So my boy isn't allowed to play 18 games, my daughter plays games, but is not bothered by the latest top of the charts game so is not the one I have to argue with. Yes we have a lot of games of all types, charting block busters to free apps which need parental password to buy extras (and that's another parental thread I won't go into :-( ).

And yes I know he plays some of these 18 games at mates (and that he's seen older 15 rated films at mates), while I don't approve I'm not about to ban his mates or get into an argument with the parents.

Some of these parents are gamers and some are definitely not. The latter haven't a clue about the content and generally only know what they see on the news about the latest blockbuster making £300m in one weekend - so totally clueless about what genre it is and what you do in the game.

Now I'm no child behaviour expert, but I know what I see. Yes all his mates can be generally regarded as "good" lads and they are fine to chat with, but I know they can really push the limits at times, and me being satisfied "my lad doesn't do that". Stuff that you may write off as a 12 y.o pushing boundaries, but I know the kids with normal aged related games/films and non game playing kids do push to that extent.

An example - a friend, that is most of the time quite good, has come round to play on occasion, well spoken and does well at school. But I know he plays CoD and other 18 games (with his Dad). He was on my lads U11 footie team and they were being taken apart by better opposition. I was drafted in as ref at last minute. He was losing most tackles and after about the 4 was getting quite frustrated. So I told him to calm down and asked our coach to sub him. I was told to "f*ck off". Now he was forced to apologise later in the week (when our coach told the parent) and was quite polite apologising and remains my lads mate.

While an isolated incident in terms of swearing directly at me, the general level of language and behaviour these boys show is not what I want of my son (though as mentioned it's generally OK and they are good well spoken lads that get on at school).

What I can't fully understand (or maybe I do - it's pester power), is that there are untold amount of games my kids love and there is no need to subject them to GTA (or CoD or any 18 rated game) levels of sex, violence and lawlessness. Minecraft, the Lego series, driving games (some my lad plays like NFS include a large amount of lawlessness!) there are plenty of good games out there for kids. There are some comments if friend some round like "can we play CoD, little Jonny does at home", but I always refuse and they get down to playing some normal game more for their age group. Which, whoah who would have thought it, these kids actually like my son's collection and can play for hours together with him on! And, as far as I can tell, he's not bullied for or taken the mickey out of, they both tell other mates "I was at Sam's after school and we played together on the Xbox" so he gets kudos for being a cool friend for having mates round playing playing games.

Now, while you think that your 4, 5 or 9 year old is not being affected by GTA, I've seen evidence that they are.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

A tricky one this...

Having played some of the earlier missions (no spoilers please!) it has some sexually explicit scenes from an early stage (not to mention how realistic strip clubs seem to have become!) - the swearing I could just about let a 12 year old deal with, they've heard the same on TV shows no doubt, but the sex would put me off letting a 12 year old playing it, it's not far off on-line **** in terms of the message it sends. Let's say the game doesn't exactly like women!

Luminous

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Its all part of growing up, but if a 12 year old starts to see things like GTA and the way it treats women, drugs etc. Well, he is going to say a few things he is going to regret on his route to growing up.

All things influence us in some way. I doubt its going to make him shoot someone, but when I was 12 the stuff that came shows would have disturbed me a little.

Minecraft, that's the solution

DARB

My younger brother used to put all his pocket money in the "commando" arcade game in our local chippy, and at home he would always be paying "Super Mario" on his Nintendo. After leaving school he joined the Army and left after 9 years and now he's a plumber!

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

LOL superb!

tubbytommy

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that made me chuckle, please tell me its true too

hill79

I think the difficulty people have is thinking that a 'game' automatically means its for kids. For some reason, they don't take an 18 certification as seriously as they would do with a movie.

I'm about 50% through GTAV at the moment and (spoilers for those playing) it includes such child-friendly delights as (not very graphic) sex scenes, a cut-scene involving a threat to anally rape a guy with a torch, an interactive torture section, drug use, constant use of f**k and c**t and obviously the general car crime and ability to shoot civilians.

16? Yeah, probably. 12? No. 4? You need to reexamine your parenting style.

RA Dunk

If there was a like button I would be liking this.

Gear Head

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My mate has set up his xbox in his spare room, just to avoid his 2 year old daughter watching it.

Games a far move realistic than they used to be.
My first 18 game was 'Hell' for the PC and I was 13.
How it was an 18, I will never know.

But, then I had Ripper, again for the PC, a couple of years later. That was quite bad.

But with GTA it is more about social behavior than scaring the crap out of someone.

This video sums it up for me:


There comes a point where games go over the top.

Aaron1978

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Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music...