stilover

Many years ago, I had 2 pr!cks on Motorbikes in front of me, on the outside lane of a dual carriageway. Nothing on the inside lane. Took them a few miles to move over after I'd been flashing them (Didn't want to undertake)

Anyway, these 2 lads decided to follow me off the carriageway and long every road I took reving their engines, and making gestures. Having laughed it off to start with, I did think they might just follow me home.

A few very heavy brake tests later, I came to a stop. Slammed it in reverse and scared the hell out of them. Bike V's big Ford Explorer. No contest !!

EddScott

Ahem

riiidaa

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brilliant

Shaid

Poor fella that RR driver.

If he played GTA5 he would have possibly side swiped a few of them.

Bikers got of likely as RR driver could have been a G and sprayed them all with his 'regulator'.

Power Rangers should have a rematch with a fair few more RRs then see who wins.

ditchmyster

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You been on the shisha pipe?

Shaid

Just a lil bit with some wacky backy

LSherratt

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hodgy0_2

Amazing, the realism they get in GTA 5

The hype seems to have been worth it

Kwik

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I'm finding what people are saying about this situation, not just on here, but everywhere I'm seeing people commenting on this situation, quite hard to believe.

Poor innocent family man in his 3 tonne Range Rover did nothing wrong but managed to **** off 100 or so bikers. Biker was wrong to slow in front of said RR (that i agree with) But RR driver, that could have stopped, chose to ram the bike then enraged said bikers. Range Rover driver was right to go forward (No explaination of why he didn't go backwards?) over human beings.
Biker was right to leave the scene of an accident, not head to the nearest police station, nor have I heard that his poor innocent wife made any attempt to contact the police.
There's a hell of a lot of conjecture about what the bikers did or didn't do.
On another note, is there anything official from the police to say the wife and kid were in the car? Not "I heard" but a police statement saying so?.

LSherratt

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The difference here though is that he chose to drive forward while hitting a few bikers because he unarguably feared for his and his families life while being surrounded by a mob of bikers gesturing him, slashing his rear tyre, and a biker from the front aggressively walking towards his car.

Also he did stop after the first incident?

tony de wonderful

Most of that is conjecture and as a plea for self defense probably wouldnt stand up. He's basically half killed one biker just cos he felt afraid, that isn't a sound reason neccesserily. Did he have reasonable grounds to fear for his life? I don't think so.

One Biker in Coma

nik52wrx

Was it easy to come to that conclusion from the comfort of your living room

Nik.

stevebt

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It appears the biker that caused the bump has been arrested, not that he will know as he is supposedly in a coma

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ife-child.html

cster

Better grounds than Tony Martin had.
With his family in the car as well, I'd say he'd have no problems in front of a jury should it come to that.

Blue by You

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One thing I don't understand, and I don't think has been addressed here, is how this footage came into the public domain.
The biker who is filming the whole thing is obviously party to the gang's activities, at least in so far as he is willingly in their company for a ride out. At the very least he is an innocent witness to the proceedings. At worst he was egging them on to greater acts of disorder.
So what was his motivation for making the video available to the public?
Bravado?
Or moral outrage?

LSherratt

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He's part of the gang and uploaded it to his YouTube channel (has lots of different go-pro motorbike videos uploaded) probably trying to show that the RRS was in the wrong... Oh how that's really backfired on him now. He's since removed the video and now has lots of hate comments on his profile. Obviously people have taken the video and uploaded it to their own channels and now it's just spread.

ScoobyJawa

Because there were loads of them behind him

Wurzel

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There is other footage of them riding prior to the RR incident where they are all riding like *****, in and out of the traffic, up the hard shoulder, wheelieing in trafffic and eventually mobbing a petrol station.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201198968590521

Rescue Dude

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This is all the footage that was posted then deleted. (To make it look like the bikers were innocent parties?)

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the...ium=socialflow

Blue by You

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Whatever the reasoning(?) behind posting that footage anywhere, it was never going to work in favour of the bikers.
The headline was almost guaranteed to be "Young family attacked by biker gang"
But I suppose it's just the same level of mentality that applies brakes on bike less than 2 feet in front of a heavyweight off roader.

ScoobyJawa

****. (coming from a fellow biker)

tubbytommy

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Kwik

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I see them around him, not behind. In fact a white van is able to get past all the bikers and overtake the RR.
I also see no reason why someone in fear would deliberately crash into the back of a motorbike?
When the RR stops, there doesn't appear to be much movement at all around it, where does all this "slashing tyre's" come from?

Why aren't the angry and possessed bikers attacking the car at 5:03? All these bikers "intimidating" but only one goes over?.
The RR runs into another biker @ 5:09.

And looking at this "deleted footage", well that bike isn't on the original footage unless i've missed it.

stevebt

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In America you can weave in and out of traffic like that and its never an issue plus people tend to drive closer to your rear bumber, makes you realise how the Americans have massive multi car pile ups,

P1Fanatic

I take it you didn't get to the part where they were overlapping into the slip road, riding over the sidewalk, stopping traffic to let other bikers through red lights and taking over the gas station like a pack of animals?

P1Fanatic

You have amazing eyesight to tell what is happening behind the camera bike when post prang . The white van is in a different lane and there is no way to see how many are on the RR's passenger side blocking him from using that lane. Again how you can tell from that crowded scene who is not near the RR and not slashing tyres?

How do you know he deliberately hit the bike - with all that commotion going on around him, family in the car etc it would be easy to be distracted enough to tap the guy brake testing. Didn't sound like much contact or that the bike even went over.

As for 05:03 they are all waiting for someone to make the first move. Who would stay stationary while some guy trots over and tries to get in your car after chasing you.

No doubt there is more going on here but to try and make out these guys are doing nothing wrong is a bit much.

Luan Pra bang

Any one who deliberately brake tests an SUV while on a bike deserves a swift death and a darwin award, Clearly this guy was in fear for the safety of his wife and family and had every right to try to escape, his mistake was not reversing over some more hooligans on bikes when he was attacked, I would have been much more aggressive in the same situation. According to some articles on the subject the man did phone the police while driving.

tony de wonderful

Was that fear warranted though?

nik52wrx

Yes.

Kwik

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I think you will find I said you can't tell whats going on, and if people are saying "tyre's were slashed" then why not say that I can't see that going on anywhere?.
The van may be in another lane, but the bikes were in the middle and nearest lane, if they "swamped" the rear of the vehicle to prevent the RR reversing, then how did the van get past.
Lol @ the bike not going over, 3 tonne hitting 180kg . Well we don't know that the RR driver wasn't distracted, but we do know he wasn't locked up trying not to hit the bike.

At 5:03 those horrible, disgusting bikers are so so desperate to get their hands on the poor defenseless RR driver that they sit, and keep sitting and then one of the hundred odd horrible beasty's walk over.
Meanwhile however the poor defensive family man in his tiny little box is so desperate in trying to escape that when he sits in traffic, he does just that, sit. I'd be beeping, almost pushing the car in front, panicking.

This is a case of road rage. The RR driver won't back down, and instead of being in fear is actually causing more problems, and I'd imagine had his wife going nuts in his ear. The bikers aren't innocent, but they didn't put anyone in a Coma.