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Old 30 October 2013, 07:15 PM
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The only one I know of was the average wage for a teacher.

They arrived at THAT one by adding together the MAXIMUM wages for a headteacher a deputy head, a head of department, and second in department and a classroom teacher and dividing by five!

I did the maths myself to see if it came out...and it did.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Where do these cretins get their average wages from, according to the papers the average wage offshore is 80K, Ive never ever come close to that figure in the thirteen years Ive been out here. In fact being a contractor Im lucky to even have a job all year round and make half of the above figure.
Yeah it isn't 80k. I dunno how they calculate that?! I'd be interested in mean vs median in terms of offshore wages. There are some people such as consultant company reps on over £1000 per day and consultant DD's on maybe £700.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Where do these cretins get their average wages from, according to the papers the average wage offshore is 80K, Ive never ever come close to that figure in the thirteen years Ive been out here. In fact being a contractor Im lucky to even have a job all year round and make half of the above figure.
Dunk our figure came from the management, some would think it was a way of turning folk against us when they found out what we were supposed to be earning.
Old 30 October 2013, 08:42 PM
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Whey, I work there in the Port Talbot site in the Coke Ovens.

My car doesnt go near the ****ing place. Ive bought a bike for going to work on and leave the car in the house.

This is one of my old cars after 1 week of driving to work (5 days)



**** gets everywhere and the car will never be clean.
Old 31 October 2013, 12:09 AM
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Depending on what part of the Scunthorpe plant you work on, the craftsmanship base pay is around the national average, circa £25-26k. That's for a skilled crafts person, ie fitter, welder, turner etc.

Shift premiums and O/T can be added on.
Old 31 October 2013, 05:02 PM
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Worked at scunny steelworks about 6 years ago . Surprised the place is still stood. Gantries had all decayed ,asbestos blowing all over the place from exposed lagging. Chorus didn't even have their own induction, it was a British steel induction done on VHS.
I've worked off shore and on the majority of the refineries and power stations around the country but scunny steelworks is the biggest hole I have ever worked on.
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Originally Posted by g7prs
Dunk our figure came from the management, some would think it was a way of turning folk against us when they found out what we were supposed to be earning.
This dosent surprise me in the slightest, I actually believe these type of companies would stoop low enough to pull a stunt like that.

So the million dollar question is, did that **** actually smirk or smile when he announced the place was closing.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
This dosent surprise me in the slightest, I actually believe these type of companies would stoop low enough to pull a stunt like that.

So the million dollar question is, did that **** actually smirk or smile when he announced the place was closing.
I wasn't at that meeting as I was nightshift. Needless to say the company got everything it wanted, reduced feedstock price from BP, government backed loan guarantees and closed the pension scheme ( which I agree couldn't carry on ) and reduced our terms and conditions. Oh and rendered the union virtually powerless.
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Originally Posted by Xx-IAN-xX
Worked at scunny steelworks about 6 years ago . Surprised the place is still stood. Gantries had all decayed ,asbestos blowing all over the place from exposed lagging. Chorus didn't even have their own induction, it was a British steel induction done on VHS.
I've worked off shore and on the majority of the refineries and power stations around the country but scunny steelworks is the biggest hole I have ever worked on.
Tata have made some attempt to clean it up, but have NOT been helped by greedy councillors, who, against all advice, redesignated land set aside for the SE link road to the motorway, as building land.

Homeowners bought, again, against advice, and Tata Steel are now landed with a HUGE bill for keeping dust down that they didn't have before the houses were built and certainly didn't need....

Roads on site are now 20mph limited and some are mobile tanker sprayed with water 24/7.
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Originally Posted by g7prs
I wasn't at that meeting as I was nightshift. Needless to say the company got everything it wanted, reduced feedstock price from BP, government backed loan guarantees and closed the pension scheme ( which I agree couldn't carry on ) and reduced our terms and conditions. Oh and rendered the union virtually powerless.
Free marketeers say legacy pension schemes should be offloaded onto the state, then moan that state spending is unsustainable.
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Average wages need to be considered from which point of view. An employee will only look at their salary. A company however has to consider all costs of employing somebody.

So somebody of say base of £30-£35k will easily crack £55-£60k when considering overtime, shift premium, bonuses, sickness, healthcare, employers NIC costs and pension costs (final salary schemes being a real killer for bussinesses).
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