need advice,how bigs too big (front brakes)
15 November 2013, 04:36 PM
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As far as I and many others on here are concerned AP and Porsche are the daddies, there are a couple of others Alcon being one of them pretty much everything else ie D2, K sports etc are cheap coppies.
As the saying goes "buy cheap, buy twice"
As the saying goes "buy cheap, buy twice"
15 November 2013, 06:24 PM
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, first porsche are made by brembo
,next cheap coppies are the same non monoblock
calipers as ap's wich use most of scoobynetersmonoblock brembo and alcon are way ahead
those ap's ap's cp7040 use smaller pads than cheap ksports ,d2
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15 November 2013, 07:55 PM
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Brembo may own the parent companies but have no day to day invovlement in the AP range as such............
AP cp7040's are simply a more cost effective road going caliper (and a decent one at that) and bear no relation to their competition range
AP cp7040's are simply a more cost effective road going caliper (and a decent one at that) and bear no relation to their competition range
15 November 2013, 07:57 PM
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Haha this made me laugh,you can **** mine twice for some! If im buying new then think I will buy budget brands like D2,pb,k-sport etc and might aswell have 350mm 6 or 8 pots with these makes. Are ap 330mm 4pots really any better than 330mm brembos and will either of these be better than 350mm 6 or 8 pot budget makes as mentioned?
a genuine AP 4pot 330mm kit will out perform and offer better feel than the std STi 326mm set-up...............
15 November 2013, 08:40 PM
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So ap 4pots are much better than brembo 4pots? Apparently these budget makes are made the same places as alot of the top end makes but without the big names on them??
15 November 2013, 08:43 PM
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15 November 2013, 08:48 PM
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So are you saying cheap makes could work better than ap's
15 November 2013, 08:56 PM
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So if i can get ap 6pots Cp7040's second hand with discs which look ok & pads which are low for £1100 or 4pot brembos with good discs & pads for £500 which one?
15 November 2013, 09:03 PM
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Yes. Very expensive but you get what you pay for, the best out there.
In all honesty, the Ksports offer great value for money. No they aren't in the same league as the big AP's or the Porsche kit but for 99% of people the Ksports are perfectly good enough. If you can find a good used set then that will offer fantastic value as they don't cost much new so second hand won't be much more than a set of brembos.
In all honesty, the Ksports offer great value for money. No they aren't in the same league as the big AP's or the Porsche kit but for 99% of people the Ksports are perfectly good enough. If you can find a good used set then that will offer fantastic value as they don't cost much new so second hand won't be much more than a set of brembos.
15 November 2013, 09:04 PM
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They are mate trust me I have driven cars with both set ups and my Brembo set up that I had was running the performance friction two piece disc and pads and they were top draw but the AP set up is better I gave the brembo set up to my wife and now I run 6 pot AP's.SJ.
15 November 2013, 09:04 PM
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AP Racing CP5200 4 pots with 330mm discs will be a massive improvement over what you have, or if your budget can stretch to it
AP Racing CP7040 6 pots with 355 or 360mm discs.
you will be hard pressed to find a better price than here:
http://www.reyland.co.uk/subaru-impezza/
AP Racing CP7040 6 pots with 355 or 360mm discs.
you will be hard pressed to find a better price than here:
http://www.reyland.co.uk/subaru-impezza/
15 November 2013, 09:09 PM
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15 November 2013, 09:11 PM
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Yes. Very expensive but you get what you pay for, the best out there.
In all honesty, the Ksports offer great value for money. No they aren't in the same league as the big AP's or the Porsche kit but for 99% of people the Ksports are perfectly good enough. If you can find a good used set then that will offer fantastic value as they don't cost much new so second hand won't be much more than a set of brembos.
15 November 2013, 09:13 PM
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You have ap 6pots. What about ap 4pots being worth twice the brembo 4pots
15 November 2013, 09:20 PM
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15 November 2013, 09:20 PM
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Such is life is all I can say,I have also driven my mates car with AP 4 pots and they were also superb I can't really comment on what these company's that make these brakes sell them for as that is down to them to price up parts used skilled labour etc...but I know when it comes to quality I will always pay for it then have a inferior part fitted to my car.SJ.
15 November 2013, 09:21 PM
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15 November 2013, 09:24 PM
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Such is life is all I can say,I have also driven my mates car with AP 4 pots and they were also superb I can't really comment on what these company's that make these brakes sell them for as that is down to them to price up parts used skilled labour etc...but I know when it comes to quality I will always pay for it then have a inferior part fitted to my car.SJ.
15 November 2013, 09:33 PM
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Twice is asking a bit to much really the AP's are better but the Brembo calipers are far from being an inferior product,from my own experience there design is bulkier and they retain heat more then the AP calipers,but they can be made to work well as I have commented on before with the PF disc and pads set up.SJ.
15 November 2013, 09:42 PM
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Twice is asking a bit to much really the AP's are better but the Brembo calipers are far from being an inferior product,from my own experience there design is bulkier and they retain heat more then the AP calipers,but they can be made to work well as I have commented on before with the PF disc and pads set up.SJ.
You shouldn't be getting brake fade on the road unless you're driving like a complete mong! Regardless of your brakes, you're going to seriously hurt yourself or worse, somebody else.