Personal debt in Britain has reached £1.4tn
22 November 2013, 07:39 AM
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22 November 2013, 09:48 AM
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I like the idea of having a few quid in the bank incase I end up out of a job sometime, which happens from time to time.
22 November 2013, 04:12 PM
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This place is full of grumpy old men, there's no point them moaning at the Mrs because she's in control of the remote and just turns the volume up, so they sculk off to their man caves and have a moan about life and the universe on the internet for entertainment. 
Doesn't mean they'er clinically depressed, just married, has the same end result though, sculking in a corner unhappy at their lott.
Doesn't mean they'er clinically depressed, just married, has the same end result though, sculking in a corner unhappy at their lott.
22 November 2013, 04:17 PM
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Are you sure?
Seriously though, yes it does ring a bell but not sure what that thread/person had to do with this subject matter.
All I was trying to say is that you come across (from your posts) as being generally unhappy and frustrated. I'm not saying you are clinically depressed btw (before somebody else accuses me of goading the mentally ill)
Maybe you aren't like that in reality but I can only judge you from your posts after all. Point scoring and agendas aside, I've made one thread about security lighting, you'd have to be just trying to have a dig to suggest that that implies that I live my life in fear.
It doesn't make me a hypocrite either as I've never said the UK (or any other country) is a perfect, crime free utopia.
However you must accept that you have a multitude of threads/posts about how awful things are here. I see the same things you do btw, I'm not blind or stupid, but I just interpret them differently.
So this comes across, to me anyway, as though you are not a very happy chappy.
Seriously though, yes it does ring a bell but not sure what that thread/person had to do with this subject matter.
All I was trying to say is that you come across (from your posts) as being generally unhappy and frustrated. I'm not saying you are clinically depressed btw (before somebody else accuses me of goading the mentally ill)
Maybe you aren't like that in reality but I can only judge you from your posts after all. Point scoring and agendas aside, I've made one thread about security lighting, you'd have to be just trying to have a dig to suggest that that implies that I live my life in fear.
It doesn't make me a hypocrite either as I've never said the UK (or any other country) is a perfect, crime free utopia.
However you must accept that you have a multitude of threads/posts about how awful things are here. I see the same things you do btw, I'm not blind or stupid, but I just interpret them differently.
So this comes across, to me anyway, as though you are not a very happy chappy.
I am fine thank you, but I am also not prepared to pretend everything is rosy when it isn't. Head in the sand never really works for me. What I will say is that for the main I keep my private life private (look what a mention of trying to emigrate solicited) and maybe in order to do that I don't let my naturally happy and personable disposition shine through. Then again maybe I am just a miserable ****!
Who knows?
22 November 2013, 07:24 PM
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Sorry but F1 is right - while many of us (me included) "feel" like things are pretty good, our nation is in so much financial ****, it just will not last long.
Banks will fail, public services will have to be savagely cut, taxes will go up, interest will rise quickly. This isn't some freaky doom mongering, it's based on very simple, very clear facts. The party WILL end soon.
So time for another beer.
Banks will fail, public services will have to be savagely cut, taxes will go up, interest will rise quickly. This isn't some freaky doom mongering, it's based on very simple, very clear facts. The party WILL end soon.
So time for another beer.
22 November 2013, 07:27 PM
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22 November 2013, 08:02 PM
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Impossible!
So why isn't this happening now then. Economists seemed to think differently, but then again what would they know compared to those on Scoobynet
These facts being?
What party? The only way is up rather than down.
Banks will fail, public services will have to be savagely cut, taxes will go up, interest will rise quickly.
This isn't some freaky doom mongering, it's based on very simple, very clear facts.
The party WILL end soon
22 November 2013, 08:18 PM
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22 November 2013, 09:03 PM
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22 November 2013, 09:26 PM
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"8M households have no savings". Can someone define ""Savings" please. Back in the day it used to be defined as: M1, M2, M3 etc. with M1 being cash in hand. M2 being current accounts, M3 being time-locked interest bearing accounts etc.
22 November 2013, 09:31 PM
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U.K. Unemployment Falls to 7.6% in Move Toward BOE Threshold
UK jobless rate falls to three-year low as economy grows
Bank of England says the UK recovery has taken hold
Britain's economic recovery speeds ahead of biggest nations as OECD upgrades growth forecasts AGAIN
Pace picks up for British industry and car production
UK manufacturing expands at fastest rate since 1995
Not ending anytime soon.
22 November 2013, 09:35 PM
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I don't believe a word of any of that nonsense, figures twisted and manipulated to give the required results.
Like I said, I see all I need everytime I go into the town center.
Like I said, I see all I need everytime I go into the town center.
22 November 2013, 09:39 PM
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22 November 2013, 09:57 PM
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Well things seem to be going well here. 14.1% less claiming dole here than this time last year. New houses being built, new offices (already taken) going up, a thriving city centre with very, very few empty shops. The only empty shop in my village is my butchers who closed last week due to retirement. Etc etc etc.
22 November 2013, 09:58 PM
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22 November 2013, 10:16 PM
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We are far worse off than countries picked out by our media as in very poor shape - Portugal, France, Italy, etc. We make almost nothing, we import almost everything, the industry "we" hedged our bets on is a shambles.
I don't need proof.
22 November 2013, 10:29 PM
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UK Budget Deficit Shrinks in October
U.K. Unemployment Falls to 7.6% in Move Toward BOE Threshold
UK jobless rate falls to three-year low as economy grows
Bank of England says the UK recovery has taken hold
Britain's economic recovery speeds ahead of biggest nations as OECD upgrades growth forecasts AGAIN
Pace picks up for British industry and car production
UK manufacturing expands at fastest rate since 1995
Not ending anytime soon.
U.K. Unemployment Falls to 7.6% in Move Toward BOE Threshold
UK jobless rate falls to three-year low as economy grows
Bank of England says the UK recovery has taken hold
Britain's economic recovery speeds ahead of biggest nations as OECD upgrades growth forecasts AGAIN
Pace picks up for British industry and car production
UK manufacturing expands at fastest rate since 1995
Not ending anytime soon.
Why can't people get their head round the size of the issue we face. All the above articles are making next to know real difference to the elephant in the room!
22 November 2013, 11:05 PM
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We will have a "joyless" recovery
The narrative of the next 5 to 10 years will be the fact that the economy will be recovering (it will, and be demonstrated by stats after stats on gdp growth, house prices, unemployment yada yada yada )
yet the perception (and the reality) for the vast majority will be that the recovery has somehow passed them by, life is going to get much much tougher for the overwhelming majority
And that is the stark fact, Whatever happens to that concept we call the "economy"
The uk will get richer, most people will get poorer, just make sure you, or more importantly your children, are not "most" people
The narrative of the next 5 to 10 years will be the fact that the economy will be recovering (it will, and be demonstrated by stats after stats on gdp growth, house prices, unemployment yada yada yada )
yet the perception (and the reality) for the vast majority will be that the recovery has somehow passed them by, life is going to get much much tougher for the overwhelming majority
And that is the stark fact, Whatever happens to that concept we call the "economy"
The uk will get richer, most people will get poorer, just make sure you, or more importantly your children, are not "most" people
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23 November 2013, 12:29 AM
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Doom and gloom.
Bloody hell you lot are a right cheery bunch, remind me never to go drinking with any of you because i'll probably hang myself from the banister when I get home.
The world will keep turning, the power hungry politicians will make sure of that, if only to make sure they continue to live off the backs of the rest of us.
Bloody hell you lot are a right cheery bunch,
remind me never to go drinking with any of you because i'll probably hang myself from the banister when I get home.The world will keep turning, the power hungry politicians will make sure of that, if only to make sure they continue to live off the backs of the rest of us.
23 November 2013, 01:13 AM
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Parents without any savings or least and no properties to leave behind may ensure that their children are equipped with some common sense, formal education and life skills so that they can make their life comfortable themselves with their own efforts as adults. Wealth doesn't come in just one form, and wealth isn't the only thing to be inherited.
23 November 2013, 07:29 AM
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Sorry but F1 is right - while many of us (me included) "feel" like things are pretty good, our nation is in so much financial ****, it just will not last long.
Banks will fail, public services will have to be savagely cut, taxes will go up, interest will rise quickly. This isn't some freaky doom mongering, it's based on very simple, very clear facts. The party WILL end soon.
So time for another beer.
Banks will fail, public services will have to be savagely cut, taxes will go up, interest will rise quickly. This isn't some freaky doom mongering, it's based on very simple, very clear facts. The party WILL end soon.
So time for another beer.
But so what? Let us say you are right and things will get worse at some point later on ie when the sticky plaster comes off as it were.
Let's say banks will fail, public services cut, taxes up etc at some point in the future, obviously even if you are right you still don't know the time scale. So what?
As long as I have food on the table and a roof over my head I'll be happy. The human race has survived wars, famine, climactic and geophysical catastrophes, I'd like to think I/we could survive a protracted recession.
I am very well aware (more than most) of the UKs debt/economic issues however I refuse to run around like a nut job screaming 'we're fooked, we're fooked' every ten seconds.
My parents survived with basic food, black and white TV, washing dishes by hand, meat for special occasions, no car, no central heating, no holidays etc etc. It did me no harm as a child, I was a happy little chappy.
So even if a financial meltdown left me back where I was 40 years ago I'd survive
Life is for living (I know you agree with that given your love of the outdoors) lets get on and live it without moaning, whingeing and doom mongering all the time
This is not the same as putting your head in the sand btw, it's a belief that no matter what happens I'll survive.
23 November 2013, 08:32 AM
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But so what? Let us say you are right and things will get worse at some point later on ie when the sticky plaster comes off as it were.
Let's say banks will fail, public services cut, taxes up etc at some point in the future, obviously even if you are right you still don't know the time scale. So what?
As long as I have food on the table and a roof over my head I'll be happy. The human race has survived wars, famine, climactic and geophysical catastrophes, I'd like to think I/we could survive a protracted recession.
I am very well aware (more than most) of the UKs debt/economic issues however I refuse to run around like a nut job screaming 'we're fooked, we're fooked' every ten seconds.
My parents survived with basic food, black and white TV, washing dishes by hand, meat for special occasions, no car, no central heating, no holidays etc etc. It did me no harm as a child, I was a happy little chappy.
So even if a financial meltdown left me back where I was 40 years ago I'd survive
Life is for living (I know you agree with that given your love of the outdoors) lets get on and live it without moaning, whingeing and doom mongering all the time
This is not the same as putting your head in the sand btw, it's a belief that no matter what happens I'll survive.
Let's say banks will fail, public services cut, taxes up etc at some point in the future, obviously even if you are right you still don't know the time scale. So what?
As long as I have food on the table and a roof over my head I'll be happy. The human race has survived wars, famine, climactic and geophysical catastrophes, I'd like to think I/we could survive a protracted recession.
I am very well aware (more than most) of the UKs debt/economic issues however I refuse to run around like a nut job screaming 'we're fooked, we're fooked' every ten seconds.
My parents survived with basic food, black and white TV, washing dishes by hand, meat for special occasions, no car, no central heating, no holidays etc etc. It did me no harm as a child, I was a happy little chappy.
So even if a financial meltdown left me back where I was 40 years ago I'd survive
Life is for living (I know you agree with that given your love of the outdoors) lets get on and live it without moaning, whingeing and doom mongering all the time
This is not the same as putting your head in the sand btw, it's a belief that no matter what happens I'll survive.
Life will always throw crap at us, some more than others.
Things happen that we can have no power to change but have to just find a way around it.
On a personal point, we have a good living, house, cars, jobs and savings all through hard work and several recessions, but some news we may hear on Thursday could seriously mean all that is irrelevant and meaningless when ones health and well being is at risk.