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Old 24 November 2013 | 02:36 PM
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This is why these threads are constantly made, because STI owners cannot fathom that someone may make a different decision to the one they've made.

This is my Mrs' uncle's car....

He has a blob WRX also.
Not at all mate

It's 9/10 in response to some WRX bhp numpty claiming his car is comparable because he has managed to get 262 bhp and the STi is only 261 Conveniently ignoring all the other entities which make an STi what it is Then you get the whole gearing, weight, comfort, everyday snoozefest to hide the glaring fact that they really want an STi

WRX is a great car, their owners just need to lose the short bloke syndrome and enjoy it I believe the same afflicts the Porsche Boxster owners club
Old 24 November 2013 | 02:37 PM
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TBH the Newage WRX is ******* awful in standard form, pig ugly, fadey brakes and you have to work very hard to keep up with similar spec cars.

But £1000 of ebay magic and a few items removed it can embarrass most cars at the lights.

I have my WRX where I want it now but I'd love the Brembos. They are just a tad too expensive on ebay still.

When I bought the WRX 5 years ago I thought the only difference between the models was winglets and a slight power increase! I really was motivated by looks and sounds at the time and bought the WRX because it had the bigger spoiler and big bore enabled burble sound!

Ask any pedestrian at random what the differences are and none may know.

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Old 24 November 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Even if I was going to mod everything I would still buy an Sti.

At least you generate a return on parts, all wrx parts will do is sit there and rot, there will always be arguments both sides plain and simple.
Old 24 November 2013 | 03:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure that my WRX PPP has alloy wishbones and inverted dampers..

I could've got an STI if I wanted, but bought my WRX and used the spare cash to buy a 2nd car for my commute to work.

I'm more than happy with my WRX, but then I'm not really a 'modder' as I've other things that I'd rather spend my cash on. The WRX is quicker than most cars in the real world, granted there'll be some things that beat you, but that's the same as with any STI too.

I just wanted to buy something, jump in it and drive and my car does the job.

To the OP, if you wanna tune your car up then buy an STI if not, then save yourself £1500-£2000 and buy a WRX.
Old 24 November 2013 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie Brasco 46
I'm pretty sure that my WRX PPP has alloy wishbones and inverted dampers..

I could've got an STI if I wanted, but bought my WRX and used the spare cash to buy a 2nd car for my commute to work.

I'm more than happy with my WRX, but then I'm not really a 'modder' as I've other things that I'd rather spend my cash on. The WRX is quicker than most cars in the real world, granted there'll be some things that beat you, but that's the same as with any STI too.

I just wanted to buy something, jump in it and drive and my car does the job.

To the OP, if you wanna tune your car up then buy an STI if not, then save yourself £1500-£2000 and buy a WRX.
Seems to be more 4500 for a WRX, 7500 for an STI at the moment.
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:18 PM
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So in summary obviously the STI is a better all round package, but the WRX is 80% of the car for 60% of the cost, representing better value?.
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:32 PM
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I think on average you'll find there is a £4/5k difference, when I bought my 04 WRX saloon New from Motorpoint in Derby it was £16,500, the STI I tried there was £22k, after about 6 months I spent £1500 at TSL and got around 280bhp and nothing ever passed me in 2yrs of ownership, it would also go off the clock and still pulling and was quite a bit quicker than my current WRX PPP.

I'm a bit of a rarity on here because I have two subaru's one is the WRX Wagon PPP and the other is an STI Type R, so just to quantify my responses, I DON'T suffer STI envy and not owning a new age STI has absolutely nothing to do with finances.

I have driven more cars than I can remember over my 30yr driving career had company cars since the age of 20 and worked around the motor trade from the lowest of the low to the very top all be it 7yrs since I quit the rat race, Bang for Buck the Subaru Impreza is impossible to beat in ALL it's guises, WHICH IS THE BEST? who knows it's a question that is asked over and over again, when I was doing my research I came across an article from the main man at Subaru (can't remember his name) HIS opinion was that the V3 Type R was the best one ever made, so I bought one and I can't say that I disagree.

Peace i'm out.

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V4 type r is better....
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
V4 type r is better....
Unless you built it
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Only read a few posts on this thread, and Im pretty sure that some WRX owners on here think that STi owners have only had a STi because they snubbed the WRX.

Ive owned both WRX and STi in pretty much most of the subaru shapes(owned 8 Impreza's), and from experience, No way in hell would a WRX PPP be faster then a standard STi and thats from expeirience in owning both cars and not what ive heard/read!!

Also read in this thread that the WRX has longer gears etc, and lighter and the turbo spools up quicker??? So a TD04 is a better turbo then a VF35 because it spools up quicker(what about when it goes over 3500 rpm)??
Think ive heard it all now!!
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
Unless you built it
True
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:45 PM
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My god is this not resolved yet!

It's clear the STI is the better car out of the box, those that disagree clearly haven't a clue, or as said before had good reasons to buy a tamed version, whether it's cost, insurance, or use.

I think this debate is relevant throughout all Marques.

Audi S4 v RS4?
BMW 330 v M3?
Porsche 911 v GT3
Evo 8 v MR

Does it continue? I don't know I've only ever had other cars, such as RS Turbos when my mates had XR3i's, again more inferior to my cars LOL

I think everyone should agree to disagree and move on!

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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Only read a few posts on this thread, and Im pretty sure that some WRX owners on here think that STi owners have only had a STi because they snubbed the WRX.

Ive owned both WRX and STi in pretty much most of the subaru shapes(owned 8 Impreza's), and from experience, No way in hell would a WRX PPP be faster then a standard STi and thats from expeirience in owning both cars and not what ive heard/read!!

Also read in this thread that the WRX has longer gears etc, and lighter and the turbo spools up quicker??? So a TD04 is a better turbo then a VF35 because it spools up quicker(what about when it goes over 3500 rpm)??
Think ive heard it all now!!

Me too having owned a wrx too and my Mrs currently still has a wrx.
Its not even worth posting on these threads.
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
when I was doing my research I came across an article from the main man at Subaru (can't remember his name) HIS opinion was that the V3 Type R was the best one ever made, so I bought one and I can't say that I disagree.

Peace i'm out.
I'm sorry but you have twisted the myth to suit yourself and the model you own...The myth goes that some fella from Subaru mentioned that V3 STI(not just the type r)is the best Subaru made because it was the first car they were allowed to do what they wanted to, where as before they just took WRX's from the production line and tweaked the a little.

Its a myth and only that because everyone knows is complete nonsense!
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Besides V2's are best
Old 24 November 2013 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Peedee
The sti is the better car (when comparing the same year WRX car), its a given. The only people that dispute this are, funnily enough, WRX owners.
Agreed
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I am on my second WRX at 22 years old, and for what I need in a daily driver it's perfect , mapped and modded to 276bhp and on bc coilovers and uprated brakes. I could afford an STi no problem and I agree it's a totally different car I just made the choice that suited my situation better. I have a lot of STi parts on my car, which sums it up really, you wouldn't buy an STi and change to WRX parts haha.

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Originally Posted by Rob Day


Does it continue? I don't know I've only ever had other cars, such as RS Turbos when my mates had XR3i's, again more inferior to my cars LOL


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B'stard! Back in '89 I couldnt afford an RS Turbo so had settle for an XR3, i had RS Turbo envy so bad...
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Originally Posted by 53
Besides V2's are best
Bugeye STi Spec C RA S202 FTW.
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Originally Posted by jayallen
I'm sorry but you have twisted the myth to suit yourself and the model you own...The myth goes that some fella from Subaru mentioned that V3 STI(not just the type r)is the best Subaru made because it was the first car they were allowed to do what they wanted to, where as before they just took WRX's from the production line and tweaked the a little.

Its a myth and only that because everyone knows is complete nonsense!
Oh shut up you Twonk, I'm in a position to own ANY subaru I chose if I could be arsed, just because I chose not to own the ones you and your cohorts think are the best you come on here snorting your crap and poo pooing everyone elses opinions, get a ******* life for **** sake and realise that not everyone likes the same things as you or gives a **** about what you think.

Anywho just remind me what car it is you drive right now.
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Originally Posted by Peedee
If I ever pull up next to a WRX, you know what my thoughts are?......

"You only have a WRX because you couldn't afford an STI".

Its like any model of car. If you buy an Sri, its because you couldn't afford a VXR. If you buy an ST, its because you couldn't stretch to the RS etc.
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Originally Posted by jayallen
B'stard! Back in '89 I couldnt afford an RS Turbo so had settle for an XR3, i had RS Turbo envy so bad...
I had an Audi GT, and used to love spanking ALL the Escorts.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Don't worry mate he's part of the Twonk brigade.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Oh shut up you Twonk, I'm in a position to own ANY subaru I chose if I could be arsed, just because I chose not to own the ones you and your cohorts think are the best you come on here snorting your crap and poo pooing everyone elses opinions, get a ******* life for **** sake and realise that not everyone likes the same things as you or gives a **** about what you think.

Anywho just remind me what car it is you drive right now.
I spout facts not just hear say or made up stories like yourself......Funny how no one has ever seen your type r...

On my drive right now is my Renault Traffic, and in 3 weeks will be my Wife's new DS4......
Old 24 November 2013 | 05:12 PM
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scoobynet....home of the snobbs...pmsl

to me the WRX is a good entry level to scooby ownership and with the right tweaks puts you in the game...its all about the driver

but the STI is the better base car...fact. but i cant afford a TYPE R or RA which are the only STIs id want...
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if I was in a position to BUY any subaru I wanted , I'd defo have a 22b on the drive :-)
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
Me too having owned a wrx too and my Mrs currently still has a wrx.
Its not even worth posting on these threads.
Even my 57 year old dad has a standard-ish(exhaust system) WRX wagon, I lent it a few months ago as I needed the wagon to put some stuff in the back, I come across a Focus ST on the way back from the tip, and guess what the ST firmly put me in my place!!!
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Even my 57 year old dad has a standard-ish(exhaust system) WRX wagon, I lent it a few months ago as I needed the wagon to put some stuff in the back, I come across a Focus ST on the way back from the tip, and guess what the ST firmly put me in my place!!!
If the wagon had PPP and AP brakes that wouldn't of happend....
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scoobynet....home of the snobbs...pmsl

to me the WRX is a good entry level to scooby ownership and with the right tweaks puts you in the game...its all about the driver

but the STI is the better base car...fact. but i cant afford a TYPE R or RA which are the only STIs id want...
Nothing wrong with that statement!! Your not coming on here saying that a standard WRX is faster then a STi!! your comments on the fact you didnt have the money to buy a STi Type R/RA is fair, the same reason I didnt/could not afford a hawkeye STi Spec C, as I have a budget/family commitments that refrain me from buying my favourite cars!!!
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Here you go gayallen, oh yeah and that will be a black blob Wagon you can see next to it.
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