Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

p1 or v6 sti type r limited

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04 February 2014, 05:45 PM
  #91  
TurboFreak
Scooby Regular
 
TurboFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west sussex
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Im not that clued up on P1's but did they not have a type r ecu hence why they suffered with engine problems given the fuel that was used in them here ??
My understanding is it's a problem with the flat 4 engine and scooby oil pump no getting good pressure to the rear shells.

The replacement engine was fitted with uprated oil pump, cambelt kit, water pump prior to being fitted, just didn't want it happening again.

But now it has this intermittant misfire problem
Old 04 February 2014, 06:40 PM
  #92  
Kwik
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (10)
 
Kwik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Gone Dark
Posts: 6,140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TurboFreak
My understanding is it's a problem with the flat 4 engine and scooby oil pump no getting good pressure to the rear shells.

The replacement engine was fitted with uprated oil pump, cambelt kit, water pump prior to being fitted, just didn't want it happening again.

But now it has this intermittant misfire problem
I thought the P1 had a prodrive remap? and that was the cause for the engine problems?.

Anyway's you're very local to me. Glad to hear you're comfortable with sorting arches . I also am having similar running problems to you.

I'm thinking back to your thread now, didn't you say that the engine was replaced and the problems started?
Old 04 February 2014, 06:56 PM
  #93  
TurboFreak
Scooby Regular
 
TurboFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west sussex
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Kwik... yes the engine never run as sweet as it should on idle when hot, the old engine was perfect, until the shell on number 3 stripped itself causing a knock

But issue that it has now is more serious intermittant misfire, maybe the problem is something to do with re-mapping, but to my knowledge the re-mapping issue (if there is one) was not the cause of original engine failier
Old 04 February 2014, 07:47 PM
  #94  
mnem1c
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
mnem1c's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Prodrive never mapped the P1 for uk fuel, it has the standard jap v5 map. This was the problem.
Old 04 February 2014, 08:09 PM
  #95  
MattyB1983
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (51)
 
MattyB1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Around
Posts: 12,716
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mnem1c
Prodrive never mapped the P1 for uk fuel, it has the standard jap v5 map. This was the problem.
As I thought, hence why so many blew up then.
Old 04 February 2014, 08:35 PM
  #96  
mnem1c
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
mnem1c's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Type-R or P1. A re-map is essential for both.
Old 04 February 2014, 08:57 PM
  #97  
TurboFreak
Scooby Regular
 
TurboFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west sussex
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mnem1c
Type-R or P1. A re-map is essential for both.
so presume it was re-mapped anyway if it was required? bearing in mind car has been running about in UK for last 14 years.

But how does a re-map effect the poor oil supply exactly?

If re-map is required now then how come my old engine run fine and so did this one for 10 weeks until it started having intermittant misfire issue?

Also correct me if I'm wrong but thought the re-map was required only if you run car on standard 95 fuel, but not required if run on 97
Old 04 February 2014, 09:02 PM
  #98  
L.J.F
Instructing with fear
iTrader: (31)
 
L.J.F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Www.Extreme-rally.co.uk
Posts: 5,101
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The erratic idle when hot is possibly the lambda sensor playing up.
Old 04 February 2014, 09:56 PM
  #99  
TurboFreak
Scooby Regular
 
TurboFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west sussex
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by L.J.F
The erratic idle when hot is possibly the lambda sensor playing up.
New Lambda arrived today, (after receiving wrong one last week) being fitted tomorrow but hope it sorts all my running issues not just poor idle when hot.
I will not hold my breath though, 4 days ago my MGZT V6 lost it's clutch pedel and yesterday I borrowed my sons Punto Sport and a stupid girl T boned me on a roundabout and wrote it off

Still where there's blame there's a claim, and my neck hurts
Old 04 February 2014, 10:00 PM
  #100  
mnem1c
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
mnem1c's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TurboFreak
New Lambda arrived today, (after receiving wrong one last week) being fitted tomorrow but hope it sorts all my running issues not just poor idle when hot.
I will not hold my breath though, 4 days ago my MGZT V6 lost it's clutch pedel and yesterday I borrowed my sons Punto Sport and a stupid girl T boned me on a roundabout and wrote it off

Still where there's blame there's a claim, and my neck hurts
What Number P1 do you own?
Old 04 February 2014, 10:03 PM
  #101  
TurboFreak
Scooby Regular
 
TurboFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west sussex
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mnem1c
What Number P1 do you own?

0052
Old 04 February 2014, 10:06 PM
  #102  
mnem1c
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
mnem1c's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Add your name to the list mate

http://www.p1woc.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=37131
Old 05 February 2014, 07:03 AM
  #103  
averyp2
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (25)
 
averyp2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,184
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mnem1c
Type-R or P1. A re-map is essential for both.
True.

However if you get a fresh import it will have been run on nice >99ron Japanese fuel, whereas uk cars will have often only ran on 95-97ron. For standard uk turbos this was 'ok', but for the p1 with its type r ecu over time this has potential to cause engine issues (as well documented). Either way, an early remap for p1 or fresh import is/was pretty imperative in protecting the engine
Old 05 February 2014, 07:32 AM
  #104  
TurboFreak
Scooby Regular
 
TurboFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west sussex
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I doubt if anyone is stupid enough to run a P1 or any turbo scooby on 95, but if a inport was not re-mapped I presume it would be the head and valves that suffer?

The guy I bought the replacement engine from even suggested a re-map is required with every engine change to get best performance, so when my issues are sorted, (and possibly new injectors and turbo fitted in the spring) I will get it on a rolling road and re-mapped anyway.
Old 05 February 2014, 08:12 AM
  #105  
RA Dunk
Scooby Regular
 
RA Dunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: My turbo blows, air lots of it!!
Posts: 9,073
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TurboFreak
I doubt if anyone is stupid enough to run a P1 or any turbo scooby on 95.
You would be surprised.
Old 05 February 2014, 09:41 AM
  #106  
L.J.F
Instructing with fear
iTrader: (31)
 
L.J.F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Www.Extreme-rally.co.uk
Posts: 5,101
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by averyp2
True.

However if you get a fresh import it will have been run on nice >99ron Japanese fuel, whereas uk cars will have often only ran on 95-97ron. For standard uk turbos this was 'ok', but for the p1 with its type r ecu over time this has potential to cause engine issues (as well documented). Either way, an early remap for p1 or fresh import is/was pretty imperative in protecting the engine
This is the main reason for so many engine failures with the P1, Prodrive had to use Broquets in the tank to add octane value because The japs wouldn't allow a custom map on the P1 that would ultimately give it better performance figures than both the 22B or type R.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Scott@ScoobySpares
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
61
11 January 2021 03:08 PM
Scott@ScoobySpares
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
7
14 December 2015 08:16 AM
Beastie
ScoobyNet General
25
13 October 2015 01:24 PM
Stidara
Subaru
5
23 September 2015 10:30 PM
ben6090
General Technical
17
13 September 2015 08:05 PM



Quick Reply: p1 or v6 sti type r limited



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:07 PM.