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Old 12 December 2013 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve001
Monster munch snacks have been around a lot longer than monster drinks?

Back on topic, great designs
And they're tastier

Thanks!
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Inho the current logo transfers to car graphics reasonably well.




I receive several spam mails a month offering to redo the website but always pointout how did they find the website and contact me if its that bad

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Haha, the intention wasn't to try to grab some work bud, I just decided to have a play about while I waiting for a client site to deploy
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I know I meant it a bit more tongue in cheek than it reads lol.
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
I know I meant it a bit more tongue in cheek than it reads lol.

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I have to admit JGM he's deffo going in the right direction with this

If my car was ever tweaked by your good self, I would have one of those on my car. A small boot badge size

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Originally Posted by Steve001
I have to admit JGM he's deffo going in the right direction with this

If my car was ever tweaked by your good self, I would have one of those on my car. A small boot badge size
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The designer in me just couldn't leave a half c0cked version lol




Anyway, I should stop pi$$ing about and get some work done!
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Crap,the original ones look far better.
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Crap,the original ones look far better.
Have much experience in design tubby? Letter spacing, kerning, hierarchy, colour theory etc...

Or is this just another one of your useless, unsubstantiated posts?
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Originally Posted by ScoobyNoob79
Have much experience in design tubby? Letter spacing, kerning, hierarchy, colour theory etc...

Or is this just another one of your useless, unsubstantiated posts?
Hang on a sec, whilst he's blunt he's only expressing an opinon and you don't have to be a designer to express an opinon over a logo etc.

I am a designer as it happens and they don't do it for me either as I don't think they relate well to the market Simon is in. They look more like an advert for a Pixar movie to be frank!

Just saying
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Hang on a sec, whilst he's blunt he's only expressing an opinon and you don't have to be a designer to express an opinon over a logo etc.

I am a designer as it happens and they don't do it for me either as I don't think they relate well to the market Simon is in. They look more like an advert for a Pixar movie to be frank!

Just saying
Design is subjective, everyone has an opinion, it's how you put that opinion across.
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Jesus another touchy newb.
It looks crap. I dont like stick on tat of any description.
At least I just make useless posts rather than useless threads like you.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
Jesus another touchy newb.
I'm not touchy at all.

Originally Posted by tubbytommy
It looks crap. I dont like stick on tat of any description.
What stick on tat? A logo on a website, or branding on a letter head?

Originally Posted by tubbytommy
At least I just make useless posts rather than useless threads like you.
Touché
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Personally I really like the original JGM logo.
Think it looks really smart

No offece intended towards your works mate, it's very good
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
Personally I really like the original JGM logo.
Think it looks really smart

No offece intended towards your works mate, it's very good
No offence take buddy

As I said previously, this was only me messing around after seeing JGM's current logo, obviously being a designer I see things a little different I suppose, the things that made me start playing around with ideas where as follows:

The shade of green with white makes for poor readability.
The curves on the logo shape pixelate.
The space at the top/bottom of the shape between the type is a little too close.
The type choice is bad IMO.
The 'J' is a back to front 'C'.
The letter 'M' has very bad kerning.

I'm not trying to slag off JGM's logo, more of an observed critique, it's just what I see.

Keeping with the original logo, something more like this:




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Where's the "like" button
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That said, don't like the "G", but the "J" is an improvement. But, hey, it's what Simon likes that matters
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That said, don't like the "G", but the "J" is an improvement. But, hey, it's what Simon likes that matters
Haha, yep. But the type is legible and it's a bad idea to use different letters from different typefaces
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Originally Posted by TimH
Where's the "like" button
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Originally Posted by ScoobyNoob79
No offence take buddy

As I said previously, this was only me messing around after seeing JGM's current logo, obviously being a designer I see things a little different I suppose, the things that made me start playing around with ideas where as follows:

The shade of green with white makes for not poor readability.
The curves on the logo shape pixelate.
The space at the top/bottom of the shape between the type is a little too close.
The type choice is bad IMO.
The 'J' is a back to front 'C'.
The letter 'M' has very bad kerning.

I'm not trying to slag off JGM's logo, more of an observed critique, it's just what I see.

Keeping with the original logo, something more like this:



Hi
I have BA in Design from 1988 and I have ...I wont bore you
Anyway.............
I think your earlier designs although good, are for specific young market palace and are not suitable for Simon or his market place

However your logo refresh in your last link is good. The weakness of Simons logo is the typo. So expand that up a touch to fill the space at bit more to reflect the last logo....and

From a technical point of view, not subjective, that is an improvement


However having known Simon for years ...I am sure he is happy the way things are
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
Hi
I have BA in Design from 1988 and I have ...I wont bore you
Anyway.............
I think your earlier designs although good, are for specific young market palace and are not suitable for Simon or his market place

However your logo refresh in your last link is good. The weakness of Simons logo is the typo. So expand that up a touch to fill the space at bit more to reflect the last logo....and

From a technical point of view, not subjective, that is an improvement


However having known Simon for years ...I am sure he is happy the way things are
Cheers

The only part I'd tend to disagree with would be expanding the type any closer to the leading edges of the shape, as soon as you do that you decrease instant distinguishable readability, and if it was ever printed, depending on the medium and type of print it may bleed.

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I have no BA I am a humble aerospace engineer but if i was to fault his current logo the only thing I would change is the letter m he has a lot of free space on the the length of the logo i would try a E turned 90degrees clock wise to keep the theme of the J. It might just be me for a long time every time I see the origonal logo it triggers my dyslexic brain to look like JCB.
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Cheers

The only part I'd tend to disagree with would be expanding the type any closer to the leading edges of the shape, as soon as you do that you decrease instant distinguishable readability, and if it was ever printed, depending on the medium and type of print it may bleed.
In terms of keeping it similar to the origonal then the type a touch closer, but not as close as it is in the current logo.

However Fair point... In terms of abilty to reproduce in varing circumstances then your point is valid.

HOWEVER....golden rule for all you business owners out there, that commision a logo,
the question to ask is where is the logo most likely to be seen. That is start point of Corporate ID design

So your print point is a minimal issue here.
So in this instance the corporate ID has to look good on a cars - end off. That is where Simons logo ends up.....that is the start point of a corporate identity for him . web second ect etc

I will now dip out of this thread.
Good luck with your graphic design endevors Scooby noob
(Remember never design for printed letter heads - design for where the logo will be seen most...hpwever in the case of an accountant, letterhead, business card it is)
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
In terms of keeping it similar to the origonal then the type a touch closer, but not as close as it is in the current logo.

However Fair point... In terms of abilty to reproduce in varing circumstances then your point is valid.

HOWEVER....golden rule for all you business owners out there, that commision a logo,
the question to ask is where is the logo most likely to be seen. That is start point of Corporate ID design

So your print point is a minimal issue here.
So in this instance the corporate ID has to look good on a cars - end off. That is where Simons logo ends up.....that is the start point of a corporate identity for him . web second ect etc

I will now dip out of this thread.
Good luck with your graphic design endevors Scooby noob
(Remember never design for printed letter heads - design for where the logo will be seen most...hpwever in the case of an accountant, letterhead, business card it is)
Yep, totally agree, I always design for the intended medium, but from experience, I ALWAYS have multi-medium compatibility in the back of my mind.

If I had a pound for the amount of times I've created a 'web only' logo for a client for them to come back and say they've had it printed on an 8 x 4ft trade show banner and it looked rubbish, I'd be very rich
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I personally think both new designs are much better than the original. The 2nd design which is much clearer is probs the one to go for! Having just spent the best part of £20k developing a website I can appreciate a good designer.....and this guy is a good designer.
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Originally Posted by juggers
I personally think both new designs are much better than the original. The 2nd design which is much clearer is probs the one to go for! Having just spent the best part of £20k developing a website I can appreciate a good designer.....and this guy is a good designer.
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