No Lights - it's dark at night!
24 December 2013, 07:16 AM
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24 December 2013, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway Code
113
You MUST
• ensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit between sunset and sunrise
• use headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street lighting. These roads are generally restricted to a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) unless otherwise specified
•use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226).
Night (the hours of darkness) is defined as the period between half an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise).
Laws RVLR regs 3, 24, & 25, (In Scotland - RTRA 1984 sect 82 (as amended by NRSWA, para 59 of sched 8))
You MUST
• ensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit between sunset and sunrise
• use headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street lighting. These roads are generally restricted to a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) unless otherwise specified
•use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226).
Night (the hours of darkness) is defined as the period between half an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise).
Laws RVLR regs 3, 24, & 25, (In Scotland - RTRA 1984 sect 82 (as amended by NRSWA, para 59 of sched 8))
31 December 2013, 10:29 AM
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Actually, the use of 'headlights' refers to 'dipped', with 'main' covered elsewhere.
The use of headlights in built up areas is advised, but not a legal requirement, hence the wording 'should', no 'must' in article 115....
The use of headlights in built up areas is advised, but not a legal requirement, hence the wording 'should', no 'must' in article 115....
Originally Posted by Highway Code
115
You should also
• use dipped headlights, or dim-dip if fitted, at night in built-up areas and in dull daytime weather, to ensure that you can be seen
You should also
• use dipped headlights, or dim-dip if fitted, at night in built-up areas and in dull daytime weather, to ensure that you can be seen
31 December 2013, 11:27 AM
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Ha Ha common sense and the average motorist. Dont make me laugh. For many its just get in turn key and brain in neutral. Get to destination and be blissfully aware of any details of the journey.
I guess it why more and more car manufacturers fit auto wipers / auto lights, going for the lowest common denominator and taking more decisions away from the driver.
Ok on a 20 mins journey this am at 7am I counted 3 people with no lights on and 2 with side lights only on
Richard
I guess it why more and more car manufacturers fit auto wipers / auto lights, going for the lowest common denominator and taking more decisions away from the driver.
Ok on a 20 mins journey this am at 7am I counted 3 people with no lights on and 2 with side lights only on
Richard
31 December 2013, 11:49 AM
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I was referring to all the **** references to the Highway Code.
All drivers should use their lights when appropriate but sadly many don't as they just want to get from A to B without pressing too many buttons or turning too many switches whilst going about it.
All drivers should use their lights when appropriate but sadly many don't as they just want to get from A to B without pressing too many buttons or turning too many switches whilst going about it.
31 December 2013, 01:26 PM
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Aye, arguing whether something thats says should instead of must, as meaning its ok to drive round with only sidelights on in the dark is stretching it somewhat.
Common sense says you should do what it says, regardless of it saying should or must.
31 December 2013, 01:30 PM
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And they wonder why the windows steam up all the time (usually from the wet carpets, that never dry out as the heater isn't used to dry them out)
31 December 2013, 03:23 PM
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Headlights on every trip whether it's dark or not, blazing sunshine, raining or any other non-descript weather condition!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
31 December 2013, 06:37 PM
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Headlights on every trip whether it's dark or not, blazing sunshine, raining or any other non-descript weather condition!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
31 December 2013, 06:50 PM
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There's nothing worse than driving behind someone with rear fogs on when it's raining, far too much glare and as per rule 236 break lights can be obscured.
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Headlights on every trip whether it's dark or not, blazing sunshine, raining or any other non-descript weather condition!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
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31 December 2013, 10:09 PM
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31 December 2013, 10:23 PM
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31 December 2013, 10:26 PM
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Headlights on every trip whether it's dark or not, blazing sunshine, raining or any other non-descript weather condition!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
Why would you not? It's easier to be seen! I'd sooner have to change my bulbs a little more often than have some chopper cut me up or drive into me because they didn't go to Specsavers!
And if it's lobbing it down and I'm on say a motorway I will use front and rear foglights. I refuse not to be seen! ( Rule 226 allows me to do this!)
Gotta be seen to be safe right?!
02 January 2014, 08:32 PM
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Beam length 3m.....
...now consider....
....so, apart from illuminating something you are about to DEFINITELY hit, what use are front fogs, apart from when driving slowly in extreme fog where they will illuminate the white line and kerb.
As for rear fogs, when this car brakes, it will be barely noticeable due to the fog lights being the same brightness as the brake lights....
JUST DON'T !!!!!
...now consider....
....so, apart from illuminating something you are about to DEFINITELY hit, what use are front fogs, apart from when driving slowly in extreme fog where they will illuminate the white line and kerb.
As for rear fogs, when this car brakes, it will be barely noticeable due to the fog lights being the same brightness as the brake lights....
JUST DON'T !!!!!
02 January 2014, 08:52 PM
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Beam length 3m..... ...now consider.... ....so, apart from illuminating something you are about to DEFINITELY hit, what use are front fogs, apart from when driving slowly in extreme fog where they will illuminate the white line and kerb. As for rear fogs, when this car brakes, it will be barely noticeable due to the fog lights being the same brightness as the brake lights.... JUST DON'T !!!!!
The reason to use them is so that others who may or may not decide to concentrate whilst driving see me! The same reason I drive with lights on all the time.
And I think you may need your eyes testing if you can't see brake lights over rear fogs, especially the centre ones fitted to most cars!
Why don't people understand that lights of any kind fitted to a car really are not to make sure you can see it's for others to see you!
02 January 2014, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GOV.UK
You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.
Originally Posted by GOV.UK
You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves
03 January 2014, 02:32 PM
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you made him unsubscribe Trev...you clearly don't understand
mostly see this when people are pulling out of large shopping complexes at night; they don't notice they haven't switched their lights on because the car park and surrounding infrastructure is so well lit.
03 January 2014, 06:20 PM
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The only time I've used rear fogs on a regulalr basis is driving through the low cloud in the Aragon mountains. Visibility is just a few metres.
I do front fogs, but they make zero difference during the daytime...just means the driver in front could see you in their mirrors - which the dipped beams were sufficient enough to do.
Very rare do I drive in the UK where visbility is poor enough to warrant using them...if you can see normal tail lamps at a distance (the braking distance as corradoboy points out), they aren't needed.
I do front fogs, but they make zero difference during the daytime...just means the driver in front could see you in their mirrors - which the dipped beams were sufficient enough to do.
Very rare do I drive in the UK where visbility is poor enough to warrant using them...if you can see normal tail lamps at a distance (the braking distance as corradoboy points out), they aren't needed.
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