Suresh

If 'Rubber dinghy rapids!' only wants to do a job with her conditions attached And her employer is fine with it then it's got SFA to do with any of us. If you don't like it don't shop there. That'll learn them :-)

AndyBaker

This, I didn't realise what total and utter bollocks it was until I had a half hour conversation with a friend who I didn't realise was a Jehovah witness. As Catherine Tate said "what a load of old ****", apparently dinosaurs were put on the earth to trample down the trees so we would now have coal

Anyway, life's what you make it not what someone told you it should be

Happy Christmas everyone, Andy

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iTrader: (41)

^ Stone him !!!!

RA Dunk

Alot of religious people are actually brainwashed enough to believe that as well.

gazney101

iTrader: (5)

Nail on the head there mate

toneh

iTrader: (1)

Religion is like car ownership , some worship scoobys others ferrari others landrover
Some landrover drivers are murderers , but that don't mean all car drivers are murderers , some car drivers speed and cause danger to others , inflicting what they deem acceptable on other folk

Just carry on with your life doing what you do and let others do what they do
There's always summat that will rub folk up the wrong way
Religion
Sexuality
Race
Cats
Nieghbours
Music
Driving

The list could go on forever

AndyBaker

Dunk, I was stood talking to one of them . Oh well, I suppose as my Nanna used to say, it takes all sorts

RA Dunk

Thats what I assumed happened, it is fecking scarey how people can be so nieve <(sp?) and believe everything they are told.

JayM

Same footballer was then photographed in a casino playing roulette or similar, and now happily wears the Wonga kit.

gazney101

iTrader: (5)

A bit like muslims then, isnt it written in the Quran all whites and non believers will be taken as slaves, including women as sexual slaves?

AndyBaker

Flippin hell I hope not, it's Christmas

gazney101

iTrader: (5)

They would have a hard job, im too pissed to be anyones slave

andylinney

and of course, the Bible is full of only love.

Seriously, put the Daily Mail in the bin and educate yourselves by looking at all sides of a story and then make your own mind up. The truth may not set you free but you'll at least be able to understand what's happening from an objective point of view and not be reliant on one twisted journalists point of view.

Here's a few excerpts to get you started:

T opping it was St Paul's advice in 1 Timothy 2:12, in which the saint says: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent."The extract is often used to justify opposition to women priests.Next was this worrying verse endorsing genocide, from 1 Samuel 15:3: "This is what the Lord Almighty says ... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "Third was Moses's call to kill witches, in Exodus 22:18: "Do not allow a sorceress to live."Another gruesome verse to make the list was Psalm 137, which celebrates this terrible revenge: "Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us / He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."A more controversial inclusion was that of St Paul's thoughts on homosexuality, from Romans 1:27, currently an extremely divisive matter with the Anglican church: "In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error."Others on the list included God's test of Abraham in Genesis 22, in which Abraham is made to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice; this endorsement of female subservience in Ephesians 5:22, "Wives, submit to you husbands as to the Lord"; and similar advice for slaves in 1 Peter 2:18: "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel."Simon Jenkins, editor of shipoffools.com, said the idea behind the web poll was to make people think about the dangers of selectively quoting from the bible.The list was unveiled at the Greenbelt Festival in Cheltenham on Monday evening.This is the top 10 list in full:No. 1:St Paul&rsquo;s advice about whether women are allowed to teach men in church:&ldquo;I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.&rdquo; (1 Timothy 2:12)No. 2: In this verse, Samuel, one of the early leaders of Israel, orders genocide against a neighbouring people:&ldquo;This is what the Lord Almighty says... &lsquo;Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.&rsquo;&rdquo; (1 Samuel 15:3)No. 3: A command of Moses:&ldquo;Do not allow a sorceress to live.&rdquo; (Exodus 22:18)No. 4: The ending of Psalm 137, a psalm which was made into a disco calypso hit by Boney M, is often omitted from readings in church:&ldquo;Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us &ndash; he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.&rdquo; (Psalm 137:9)No. 5: Another blood-curdling tale from the Book of Judges, where an Israelite man is trapped in a house by a hostile crowd, and sends out his concubine to placate them:&ldquo;So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, &lsquo;Get up; let&rsquo;s go.&rsquo; But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.&rdquo; (Judges 19:25-28)No. 6: St Paul condemns homosexuality in the opening chapter of the Book of Romans:&ldquo;In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.&rdquo; (Romans 1:27)No. 7: In this story from the Book of Judges, an Israelite leader, Jephthah, makes a rash vow to God, which has to be carried out:&ldquo;And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, &lsquo;If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord&rsquo;s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.&rsquo; Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, &lsquo;Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.&rsquo;&rdquo; (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)No. 8: The Lord is speaking to Abraham in this story where God commands him to sacrifice his son:&lsquo;Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.&rsquo; (Genesis 22:2)No. 9: &ldquo;Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.&rdquo; (Ephesians 5:22)No. 10: &ldquo;Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.&rdquo; (1 Peter 2:18)

RA Dunk

I would ban all religions given half the chance, it would pi$$ of quite alot of people initially but ten years down the line when everybody is living under one religious free roof the world would be a better place.

Shaid

:l ol1:

Yep, it also says that all white folk are to be slaughtered using the 'ever so barbaric' Halal method and all infidel female folk are to be forced to marry Mr Khan the community leader.

Anyway, why are you so against being a slave to a Muslim? You are a slave to the system at the moment. Be our slave and we will liberate you

Shaid

No, it would not. Man would fight over something else like Race.... or natural resources (oil perhaps).... oh hang on a minute!

RA Dunk

For a start I like Bacon and I like hand parties, both of which you lot don't like.

RA Dunk

Ok fair enough then, it would be one thing 'less' to argue about.

ScoobyNoob79

I'm just going having dinner with Santa, The Tooth Fairy and some Pixies...

What's that I hear you say? Ludicrous? They don't exist?

Enter God(s).

andylinney

There's a nice quote from The Hogfather by Terry Pratchet. It's a conversation between two of the characters, Death and his Daughter Susan.

It's all about being prepared in childhood to accept the little lies like the tooth fairy so that the big lies like love, justice and I guess, by association, the notion of God are easier to swallow as an adult. Here's the passage:

Death:*Humans need fantasy to *be* human. To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape.

Susan:*With tooth fairies? Hogfathers?

Death:*Yes. As practice, you have to start out learning to believe the little lies.

Susan:*So we can believe the big ones?

Death:*Yes. Justice, mercy, duty. That sort of thing.

Susan:*They're not the same at all.

Death:*You think so? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet, you try to act as if there is some ideal order in the world. As if there is some, some rightness in the universe, by which it may be judged.

Susan:*But people have got to believe that, or what's the point?

Death:*You need to believe in things that aren't true. How else can they become?

Shaid

It's not that we don't like them. We simply can't eat them under normal circumstances.

ps - What are hand parties?

RA Dunk

You use you hand (only one hand) for some 'fun time'

ScoobyNoob79

Do YOU believe in God?

Shaid

Ah...

I normally refer to that as 'burping the slug'

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iTrader: (41)

Mrs Palm and her 5 Virgin Daughters... Sounds like something you'd blow up for and over

andylinney

To be honest I don't really know. I'm a sceptic who is willing to be proved right or wrong.

I know that when I was in a properly sticky situation that I didn't suddenly find God, I was too busy concentrating on not becoming a lump of meat and metal that someone had to clean up with a hosepipe.

What I do believe in however is the freedom to choose how / who / what you worship, if anything at all...

gazney101

iTrader: (5)

Pmsl, i might take you up on that one mate, i cant promise i wouldn't burp my slug in your chicken vindaloo at every opportunity though

ScoobyNoob79

I agree people should do/believe whatever they want. However, I think it's all bollox

gazney101

iTrader: (5)

I couldn't agree more with that

RA Dunk

Choking the chicken, spanking the monkey, there's a few different terminologies lol