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27 December 2013, 01:13 PM
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Martin, do you have ANY idea of the sort of money that has been poured into Africa in the last thirty years? And has it made any difference?
Before branding US as selfish and stupid, answer the question about the selfish, stupid people who continue to breed when they KNOW THERE ARE NO RESOURCES. Is THAT their fault? Developed countries don't see families of eight to fifteen children as the norm, what gives the un-developed countries the right to do so?
As for genuine will, resource and effort, how about $135 BILLION in 2011 alone. What has it achieved?
Before branding US as selfish and stupid, answer the question about the selfish, stupid people who continue to breed when they KNOW THERE ARE NO RESOURCES. Is THAT their fault? Developed countries don't see families of eight to fifteen children as the norm, what gives the un-developed countries the right to do so?
As for genuine will, resource and effort, how about $135 BILLION in 2011 alone. What has it achieved?
27 December 2013, 02:01 PM
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Nowadays ,with these western charities, this is the only way if getting foot in the door.
The far east have an open door to help/exploit the poor *******s
The far east have an open door to help/exploit the poor *******s
27 December 2013, 02:11 PM
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Well, I've quoted you the 2011 figure Google and find the figurtes for the last 40 years..it's way over a $trillion.
Where has it gone? What has it done? Are they still breeding as fast? Are fewer dieing? Do any of their leaders have gold-plated Rollers?
If we continue, they will drag us down to their level. We need to let Mother Nature take her course.....sorry, cruel but true. The developed world DO NOT breed when there are no resources. WHY do these people?
27 December 2013, 02:22 PM
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Well, I've quoted you the 2011 figure Google and find the figurtes for the last 40 years..it's way over a $trillion.
Where has it gone? What has it done? Are they still breeding as fast? Are fewer dieing? Do any of their leaders have gold-plated Rollers?
If we continue, they will drag us down to their level. We need to let Mother Nature take her course.....sorry, cruel but true. The developed world DO NOT breed when there are no resources. WHY do these people?
Where has it gone? What has it done? Are they still breeding as fast? Are fewer dieing? Do any of their leaders have gold-plated Rollers?
If we continue, they will drag us down to their level. We need to let Mother Nature take her course.....sorry, cruel but true. The developed world DO NOT breed when there are no resources. WHY do these people?
27 December 2013, 02:31 PM
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It is their own fault, they keep knocking out families of five or six which they can't bloody feed, just whose fault is that other than their own? is it ours?
27 December 2013, 02:45 PM
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27 December 2013, 02:51 PM
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With regards to your Hitler jibe: it makes you look like a fool.
27 December 2013, 03:18 PM
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I would be interested in hearing the suggested remedies of those who strongly disagree with the majority on this thread.
Instead of posting how awful we are, then us posting how awful THEY are, how about Martin, DL and DD come on and tell us how we could actually solve this problem, and whether they see the constant breeding when there are no resopurces AS a problem?
Instead of posting how awful we are, then us posting how awful THEY are, how about Martin, DL and DD come on and tell us how we could actually solve this problem, and whether they see the constant breeding when there are no resopurces AS a problem?
Corruption. Identify the banks that are transferring money from Africa to overseas destinations and stop this happening. Banks that ignored this rule to be shut down. Assets held overseas in large amounts to be declared by banks and returned to country of origin. Jail for the bankers who ignored this rule.
Electric Power. One thing Africa has in plenty is sunshine so use solar technology, which is much cheaper now, to provide power to villages for light, refrigeration for foodstuffs, medicines, communication, as a power source for waterl pumps and as a means of powering educational videos and the internet.
Foreign Investment. Stop foreign "investors" raping the wealth of African countries. It seems to be China's turn at the moment. UN to come up with a blueprint for investors which ensure that country's get their fair share of profits.
Technology Transfer. Much more emphasis on this. Africans are bright and will soon pick-up ideas given the chance.
Contraception. For starters lean on the catholic church to relax their views. The new pope may support this.
The above would help a bit IMHO.
Now what is your take Alcazar, you are an intelligent chap or do you think that letting them all die off is the only way?
dl
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27 December 2013, 04:50 PM
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http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...213836626.html
This gives a slightly different perspective to it in Zim, than most are used to
This gives a slightly different perspective to it in Zim, than most are used to
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27 December 2013, 04:53 PM
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And I gave you one...YOU are the one who has yet to furnish any sort of answer...over to you:
"IS it a problem that they continue to breed no matter what, and what can be done?
SHOULD we, and others, give money we can no longer afford for them to breed faster?"
Two questions, two simple answers will see you outed.
"IS it a problem that they continue to breed no matter what, and what can be done?
SHOULD we, and others, give money we can no longer afford for them to breed faster?"
Two questions, two simple answers will see you outed.
27 December 2013, 04:57 PM
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Well I can't speak for the others but here are some starting points. Some are realistic and some require a bit of backbone. Many of them would be managed by UN and African groups.
Corruption. Identify the banks that are transferring money from Africa to overseas destinations and stop this happening. Banks that ignored this rule to be shut down. Assets held overseas in large amounts to be declared by banks and returned to country of origin. Jail for the bankers who ignored this rule.
Corruption. Identify the banks that are transferring money from Africa to overseas destinations and stop this happening. Banks that ignored this rule to be shut down. Assets held overseas in large amounts to be declared by banks and returned to country of origin. Jail for the bankers who ignored this rule.
. One thing Africa has in plenty is sunshine so use solar technology, which is much cheaper now, to provide power to villages for light, refrigeration for foodstuffs, medicines, communication, as a power source for waterl pumps and as a means of powering educational videos and the internet.
Agreed...we can but hope. But as a Catholic myself, lapsed, unfortunately, I am not going to hold my breath.
27 December 2013, 05:14 PM
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Isn't this a bit like telling china its not allowed to aid its development through burning fossil fuels.
Two hundred years ago in this country families were a lot larger and a lot poorer
Two hundred years ago in this country families were a lot larger and a lot poorer
27 December 2013, 05:51 PM
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And I gave you one...YOU are the one who has yet to furnish any sort of answer...over to you:
"IS it a problem that they continue to breed no matter what, and what can be done?
SHOULD we, and others, give money we can no longer afford for them to breed faster?"
Two questions, two simple answers will see you outed.
"IS it a problem that they continue to breed no matter what, and what can be done?
SHOULD we, and others, give money we can no longer afford for them to breed faster?"
Two questions, two simple answers will see you outed.
You talk about these poor people like they are beneath you, like some kind of sub-race
27 December 2013, 06:24 PM
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why should we help them when they dont really help themselves?
in a way they are a sub-race (its nothing to do with skin colour before you start crying about that)
until they realise that they can help themselves then yes i would say they are a sub race-as harsh as it sounds.
whats stopping them from getting together and talking about the out of control breeding and trying to come up with a solution?
i cant imagine what its like to live without food/clean water but if i was in that situation the last thing on my mind would be getting my mrs knocked up again.
children shouldnt be bought into a world of poverty regardless of where in the world they are-its simply not fair.
27 December 2013, 06:42 PM
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exactly-thats our problems in our country,why should we keep pumping money into a country that has people not willing to help themselves when we have our own problems to sort out?
i know its not a nice thing to say but we should help our own 1st.
i know its not a nice thing to say but we should help our own 1st.
27 December 2013, 06:53 PM
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It’s not just an African problem, it's a worldwide problem, people think they have, excuse the pun, a god given right to have children. The human race continues to grow unabated, but nobody wants to talk about controlling it. The only outcome will be a shortage of resources, i.e. food and the inevitable wars that follow it.
27 December 2013, 07:12 PM
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Education and contraception would probably do it.
Yes all the morons in our country are firing out kids they can't afford perhaps we should ask Africa to sponsor them?
I wonder how much of the donated money gets to where it's intended and how many people get rich along the way?
Mick
Yes all the morons in our country are firing out kids they can't afford perhaps we should ask Africa to sponsor them?
I wonder how much of the donated money gets to where it's intended and how many people get rich along the way?
Mick
27 December 2013, 07:27 PM
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They will / are coming to the UK and we will end up a third world country because they are incapable of living in a civilised society.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/406848a2-6...#axzz2ohmFMynx
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/406848a2-6...#axzz2ohmFMynx
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