Dingdongler

There are some vile, despicable characters making themselves known on this thread.

It is truly disgusting, I'm lost for words.

mrmadcap

I'm just glad I never got mugged as a teenager and threw money at that Live Aid fiasco.

mrmadcap

I've got an idea, all that alcohol that M & S refused to sell over Christmas send it to Africa.

pslewis

All I'm saying is, spend money on sterilising them, only then will they get a bowl of rice and bread and water.

I'm not saying kill any of them, just don't allow them to have anymore ..........

dpb

What a ******* shame your parents didn't take the same advice. ..

Martin2005

Most of them would cry like babies for help if they ever needed it

the shreksta

iTrader: (20)

yes but we would also try to help ourselves...........

tony de wonderful

Sounds like a very Tory attitude to the 'idle' poor.

cuprajake

iTrader: (11)

I'm all for helping people. I just prefer it be in our own country.

When I think of the hundreds of millions of pounds sent to the likes of Africa, through government and public fund raising its scary. Where can it all go.

Then were sending aid to countries who have space and nuclear plans

Don't for a second think if the shoe was on the other foot they'd send us aid.

Your better off sending food and water than money, where ever there is money there's greed Nd where ever there's greed there's corruption. You only need look at our own government to see that. And there fed, sheltered and clothed.

edsel

iTrader: (2)

The advertisers got the better of me. I'm cancelling my unicef debit and Giving it to the Sally Army. I want to help the poor in the UK first.

Martin2005

Really - love to see that without a massive safety net, and the security of living in a advanced economy. How exactly would you help yourself?

hodgy0_2

Quite, these cvnts whinge like fvck when petrol goes up 4p a ltr

tony de wonderful

Scoobynet is full of virile superman blessed with Olympian physiques and perfect health, even in the apocalypse their iron wills will triumph.

edsel

iTrader: (2)

This "advanced economy" is unsustainable, or so the government/media would have us believe. The rise in people using food banks and other charitable organisations in the UK is on the up. The number of people that are living one pay check away from eviction is growing and our old folk are living in poverty.
Charity begins at home? The more I think about that statement the more I agree with it.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Impossible, George and David have fixed everything in the UK according to the intelligencia on here:

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...in-charge.html

the shreksta

iTrader: (20)

well i wouldnt be popping out kids left.right and center.

no food,no water,plagued by disease...............ah **** it lets have some more kids.................

surely you can see that this is a problem

^Qwerty^

Another way to help themselves:

http://pri.org/stories/2013-12-12/et...bred-hostility

Dump make believe friends and get on with life.

hodgy0_2

What about if stop peddling weapons of torture death to African countries

Which Promotes corruption as well misery - incidentally their is very high correlation between the recipients of Aid and the purchasers of these arms - we give them a bit of aid and sell them a lot of guns

We sold Tanzania a military air traffic control system Tanzania had no airforce to control!!!

Totally corrupt deal, amongst many others, promoted by the UK

Also what about stop paying benefits to our farmers and agricultural industries - benefits and subsidies that stop African countries competing on a level playing field

No, lets just kill them all!!!! - pathetic

DYK

I think what's happening in our own country over the last few years,its made people think more on the choices they make,especially when it comes to money.
Everyday nearly we here reports of child poverty in the UK,pensioners dying as they can't afford heating in winter etc,wages are not keeping with the cost of living,homeless,all the scamming and lies our government are being caught on,cuts on money/spending we are told needs to happen,we are in it together.I can see why it gets the ordinary working person ticked off when they here of the millions of pounds the gov give in foreign aid,while we are being told tighten our belts as the country is facing hard times,oh btw we the government are giving ourselves a pay rise,adverts give a few quid a month to some third world country.
I reckon the saying charity starts at home,is coming home in peoples minds more now.Look after myself and my own family,and the charities that are for the needs in our country/people,That's how i see the way its going.

Jamie

Sky + no more adverts.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

It IS quite noticeable that, apart from preaching, you have no ideas as to how to help, other than "more of the same" which is patently NOT working.

So, I ask again, what WOULD you have us do?

I LOL at those saying we couldn't help ourselves. I have two kids.....TWO, yet me and the wife worked all our lives, the wife still does. And I'm STILL taxed on my meagre pension! THEN they give it to Africa, so THEY have the right to have ten, twelve, fifteen kids...you couldn't make it up

Petrol has now gone up so much that my Impreza has used less than £30 this last three months.....I walk.

stevemontuno

when these charity organisations are milking millions from the good people who donate and then giving pennies to the cause,,it sure is a sad state of affairs,

and when you see an advert saying they need money to send so they can sterilise water when they obviously know boiling water will kill any bad ****,,,you know they are bull****ting you ,,

if you knew for certain your money was really going to save some poor starving kid in africa most folk wouldnt think twice about giving them some cash,,but folk have now wised up to these fat cats smoking expensive cigars and drinking fine wine on donations ment for those poor african folk ,,so they need to put more adverts on the box to try and make more money because that fancy lifestyle is slipping away,,,
hey if africa became tropical they would only think some other **** up to get your donation money,,

Martin2005

I know it's very convenient to blame 'breeding' for the problems of Africa. I guess it's a way of making it all their own fault and cleansing your own conscience and justify your utterly selfish outlook.

If you knew on day you were going to be old and need supporting, you'd have kids too, after all that's the ONLY safety net most families have out there. Plus giving the appalling infant mortality rate, I'd say you should be more focused on that rather than the birth rate - yet you decide to ignore.

You just want simple, easy to digest reasons, preferably ones that can justify your selfishness

Martin2005

The statement 'charity begins at home' is virtually never used by people that actually give to charity.

It's basically the mantra of the selfish and mean spirited - charity may well begin at home, and indeed it overwhelming does, but it doesn't end there.

the shreksta

iTrader: (20)

Are you still talking...................YAWN

Martin2005

Well you asked, if I thought you didn't actually want me to answer then I'd of saved 5 mins of my life - or did I hit a nerve?

Martin2005

This is a good summary of Africa's woes - for those who actually are interested in facts...

Unfortunately, poverty in Africa doesn’t result from just one or two causes. There are a number of different factors at work, all interacting with one another, and making the problem of entrenched poverty extremely difficult to solve.

Some of the major causes of poverty include: war and armed conflict, poor farm policy, lack of access to credit, rampant unemployment, lack of access to education, and disease.

WAR AND ARMED CONFLICT

One-fifth of all African people live in countries seriously disrupted by armed conflict. When war is ranging all around, it’s very difficult to grow crops, continue to work in an office, or earn money. Ordinary life becomes impossible, as people are forced to flee their homes.

Thus, productivity goes down, and poverty rates shoot up. Countries at war produce an average of 12.5 per cent less food per person than they do during peace time.

One example is Angola, where a 27-year long civil war killed half a million people and left 3.8 million people displaced. Virtually all the country’s infrastructure was destroyed in the conflict, and more than three-quarters of the population fell into extreme poverty. Today, 85% of Angolans make their living through subsistence farming, working fields that conceal left-over landmines.

POOR FARM POLICY

The agriculture sector accounts for about 60% of African workers. Three-fifths of them are subsistence farmers, trying to eke enough food from their plot to feed their family. The rest work for large multinational industrial farms, or labor on huge export-crop fields.

Cash-strapped African governments try to squeeze every last penny out of their agricultural sector, imposing export taxes and commodity taxes on production. This drives up prices and drives down wages, increasing poverty rates. Meanwhile the governments of European nations and the US do the opposite: they subsidize farmers to the tune of $300 billion US per year.

In addition, African governments often are forced to sell their crops for bargain prices, in order to remain current on their foreign debt load. Importing nations in the developed world know that the producers have to sell at whatever price, so offer artificially low amounts for their produce.

LACK OF ACCESS TO CREDIT

The very poor can’t get a bank loan or a credit card with which to make basic purchases that could help lift them out of poverty. While they may need only a tiny cash infusion, between $20 and $300 U.S. to buy a cell phone, some livestock, a sewing machine, etc., this is often impossible for people in poverty. They don’t have any collateral, or income, and they don’t have a credit record.

Increasingly, micro-lending organizations are addressing this problem by specializing in loans to the very poor. However, micro-lending is still centered in Asia, and is just getting started in Africa. As it grows, it may cause substantial improvements in the lives of many of Africa’s poorest people.

RAMPANT UNEMPLOYMENT

The unemployment rate in some African nations is more than 70%. Zimbabwe’s unemployment rate is now 85% and rising. Even in South Africa, one of the most developed African nations, unemployment is around 36%, significantly higher than that in Europe or North America.

With so many people out of work, it’s little wonder that economic productivity is low, and poverty rates high.

LACK OF ACCESS TO EDUCATION

A UN survey in 2000 found that only 58% of school-aged children in Africa were actually enrolled in school. Somewhere between 40 and 45 million African children will never set foot inside a school building.

Across Africa, most schools have to charge the students fees in order to operate. Even if the fees are as little as $20 or $30 US for a child to attend for a year, the price of basic education can be out of reach for many poor families. In addition to school fees, parents also have to buy uniforms, books, and possibly lunch for their students, and many families simply can’t afford it.

Children who don’t have even an elementary-school education have little hope of finding steady work when they grow up. If they join the ranks of the chronically unemployed (or underemployed), their children too may miss out on schooling, and the cycle will continue.

DISEASE

According to the UN, about 2 million African people die each year just from AIDS, and 24 million more get infected with HIV. Deaths from malaria also total about 2 million, although a higher percentage of those killed by the parasite are small children. Each disease costs Africa about $10-12 billion US every year in lost GDP, and plunges more families and whole communities deeper into poverty. Africa also suffers from epidemics of cholera, measles, and polio.

The link between disease and poverty is easy to see. Workers who are weakened by AIDS or malaria miss work, and they typically don’t have paid sick leave. Their employers lose their productivity, decreasing profits. Other family members also have to stay home from work or school to take care of the ailing person, so the loss expands. In many villages, elderly grandparents who have lost several adult children to AIDS are working to feed 8 or 10 orphaned grandchildren. It’s almost impossible for them to feed all those mouths and scrape together all those school fees.

CONCLUSION

Poverty in Africa is a complex problem, born of many interlocking causes. It will be difficult to solve, but the world must continue to try. It’s unconscionable that so many people continue to live in such grinding poverty.

the shreksta

iTrader: (20)

Ha hit a nerve..........not in the slightest,there is nothing anybody can say to me that can hit a nerve

Martin2005

Too thick?

Jamie

lol