There was a good feature on Pistonheads earlier this month on how modern FWD hot hatches have caught up and passed the 4WD rally reps.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=29164

 

So lessons learned the hard way i'll just sit back and enjoy what I have for now and just let the newer pocket rockets blast past.

 

It's been a little while so I thought i'd have some banter.

As for the OP we both know if he had a Blob wagon PPP with AP's he'd have been in front.

 

Saying that though - kept a TT quatro honest going up a long 10% incline. Was well impressed, although not sure if he was giving if full beans, I know I was, and in the sweet spot in 3rd gear - it still sings, nothing like that SSSSHHHHWWWEEE from T'bo and the growl from the exhaust on a Monday morning.

 

If its a Scirroco R...up the bhp by another 50 as they have 260bhp, can be quite stealthy if specced right...unlike the chavvy Scirroco GTS which looks like a dogs dinner.

Still FWD and I don't care what magazine reviews say - as they don't live on my planet, as everytime I've driver a high performance FWD car in the damp or wet (i.e most days) I am left yearning for my AWD again...that including a brief test drive of a Scirroco R, where I actually turned the car round after it squirmed about for traction under power, with the light constantly blinking. I told the dealer it was a waste of time going any further as it wasn't the car for me.

I'd rather have a slower car with traction that can put all of its power down when requested rather than a car that has to use all of its traction control wizardry to hold back the engine power when its needed the most, for example when booting it out of a busy junction in the wet.

 

 

100% agree with you

 

Yep agreed

 

Yep.

 

So many road racing hero's.....

An old wrx wagon isn't very fast, you don't say.

 

Just accept this defeat as a personal attack on your masculinity! I would suggest you change your tampon, dry your eyes and maybe let your other half do the driving from now on

 

Agreed.

 

This is great love a good Debate. Like the lad in (new) M3 that got whooped by the bugeye in Newcastle. Bet the M3 owner felt silly

 

Agreed, but there's always someone with something quicker no matter what you have. Wouldn't mind Andy Forrest's WR classic

 

id say most are quicker than an old wrx wagon
it was slow in its day, 13 years later its a fecking snail

 

Reason why I got rid of the Focus RS, 365 days of the year the roads are wet/damp from raining all the time(even the summer and trying to get the front wheels to stop spinning does my head in, much prefer the traction of AWD and even RWD at least you can point the steering wheel in the right direction and let the rear wheels do what they want.

Probably why Ive had 3 Evo's and 7 Impreza's in 13 years of driving as I love traction of AWD!!!

 

I had a 2009 Leon Cupra K1 with the 2.0TSI engine.

After a remap the mid range was amazing.

There's a Scottish guy on Youtube doing runs at Crail running stage 2 in his K1 and eating Focus RSs and Imprezas for dinner. (Standard Imprezas I may add)

But..... Boring.

Golf GTI is boring.

Had 2 Golf R32s (MK4), lovely cars but boring in the end.

Always come back to Impreza.

They maybe dated, but every conversation I hear lately about people beating STI Imprezas, they always come from guys who have newer hot hatches and have them remapped to high heaven against standard Scoobs.

Still think my Blob STi is as good as any hot hatch today but that's my opinion.

If a new fancy dash with lots of lights and gadgets is what you want then go for it, but I like to have fun in all weathers so I'll take my STi thanks.

Not that I'm biased.

 

^^ totally agree. I had a 3.2 A3, it was a lovely drive and nippy enough. But it wasn't fast, and wasn't great on the bends. My impreza in comparison feels like an absolute monster. Pulls like a train on boost, and handles like a dream. I can't wait to get it how I want it, I'm sure it'll be faster than 90% of standard hot hatches.

 

i suggest you lot try some modern machinery, the impreza is outdated slow and has an awful chav image, confirmed by the op and his "street race".

i bet his parents are proud.

 

What would you suggest that is 300bhp+, 4wd, tuneable and under 30k? And still practical to take the family in.

 

im not talking price here, the impreza has the legs on most stuff due to one reason. 4wd.

the interior, build quality,mpg,running costs and worse of all image out way the one plus point.

do people really street race everywhere, ive never had such a thing happen to me in all my impreza driving years, is it just something newbs claim to make them think their wrx is a road going f1 car??

 

I'm not biting Tubs

 

its just a fact, just over 200 bhp weighs a ton and 4wd transmission loss, most modern cars will kick its ***

 

I've never raced the impreza tbh. For me the seats are more comfy than the Audi sline seats, the mpg is actually better in the impreza till I boot it, running costs are less so far, and even though the Audi was a nicer interior on the whole with good build quality, it just couldn't put a smile on my face like the impreza.

 

I know what your saying, It was stupid of me for thinking my car was more than it is in the first place.

 

Spend £1500 or so on some mods and I guarantee you'll be driving a totally different animal.

 

Would this be about right, Esl, yellows, and fuel pump. Will that put me at around 270bhp on a td04l

 

I had a 2013 bmw 530D for the week on hire while my car was in the bodyshop, was pleasantly surprised at how quick it was, for only having a few bhp more than my wrx it seemed much much quicker, got to certain speeds in excess of 130mph (on a private road obviously) much quicker than the wrx ever would...if it would. I also had a nice blast on a back road with a clio a couple of months back, i could not for the life of me pull away, cars nowadays are making these old dogs look sluggish ........still, i'd love to see my bmw or clio get to work in a few inches of snow

 

I have a tsi scirocco and it is quick but you just get 'wheel hop' if you put ur foot down in the damp and with tc off just spins, once you do get the power down though it pulls well through the range, and is bloody lovely car to drive and comfy as he'll!
Will be getting another hopfuly the 'r' next year!

 

Dont take it to heart. It was probably a diesel too and still giving double the mpg to your impreza.

It make me laugh how people think imprezas are really fast super cars.

Fact is they are old mildly quick family cars.

A modern diesel will trounce most pmsl