loosing faith with this site
29 January 2014, 08:27 AM
#31
Its just like migweb. The same questions get asked over and over again. Rather then people type and type they call you a ****** and tell you to use the crap search button.
At the same time people get bored and realise there are girls outside. They ditch the web for women...
At the same time people get bored and realise there are girls outside. They ditch the web for women...
29 January 2014, 10:02 AM
#32
I kicked something off - but it was dropped
I guess they thought the technical topics archive covered it. Which was last updated in 2012..............so you can kind of see why I dont bother too much anymore.
The thread -
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...q-section.html
As others have said. Google search pointing back to threads on here is definately the best way to find things.
I guess they thought the technical topics archive covered it. Which was last updated in 2012..............so you can kind of see why I dont bother too much anymore.
The thread -
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...q-section.html
As others have said. Google search pointing back to threads on here is definately the best way to find things.
29 January 2014, 10:18 AM
#33
I think a lot of us do try and help, but all you can do is point someone in a direction then it depends on them and how thorough they are in checking things like vacuum pipes etc in this instance.
You do get sick of the same questions after a while because people can't be arsed to use the search function or troll through the pages and find the various linked threads that these DO contain that will ultimately lead to a solution to their problem, a lot get bored of looking and like most things in this day and age folks want a quick fix, so for those that do have the patience and will to find the answers, yes it is annoying hence we do quite often say use the ******* search function you lazy ****,
because the questions get asked 10 times a week.
Then there is the knowledge drain as a lot of those that do know don't come on here often because it's full of idiots/chavs with dump valves and when they do try and help they get abuse or the people they give the advice to don't listen until they get the answer they want to hear, usually from some **** that says i'v had xyz fitted on my old saxo and it worked fine, super **** off to suxo.*** then and ask there.
Ok so where's this thread and what's your problem.
You do get sick of the same questions after a while because people can't be arsed to use the search function or troll through the pages and find the various linked threads that these DO contain that will ultimately lead to a solution to their problem, a lot get bored of looking and like most things in this day and age folks want a quick fix, so for those that do have the patience and will to find the answers, yes it is annoying hence we do quite often say use the ******* search function you lazy ****,
because the questions get asked 10 times a week.Then there is the knowledge drain as a lot of those that do know don't come on here often because it's full of idiots/chavs with dump valves and when they do try and help they get abuse or the people they give the advice to don't listen until they get the answer they want to hear, usually from some **** that says i'v had xyz fitted on my old saxo and it worked fine, super **** off to suxo.*** then and ask there.
Ok so where's this thread and what's your problem.
29 January 2014, 12:04 PM
#35
Well I've been on here without any gaps for over ten years, and have over 30,000 posts to my name.
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
29 January 2014, 12:44 PM
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Well I've been on here without any gaps for over ten years, and have over 30,000 posts to my name.
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
Mods, please close thread.
29 January 2014, 12:58 PM
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Well I've been on here without any gaps for over ten years, and have over 30,000 posts to my name.
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
I generally find the tech knowledge is better/more available on sites such as NASIOC, but there are still some very clever people on SNet - just not posting quite so much any more.
The Technical Topics Archive here doesn't get anywhere near the publicity it deserves, there are some gems in there
29 January 2014, 09:08 PM
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Well I've been on here without any gaps for over ten years, and have over 30,000 posts to my name.
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
Yes, the site has changed. Yes, there are reasons.
First off, the people who were here when I joined were the people doing the research and development that we benefit from now. They have moved onto other things and no longer post. Some have passed away. But their knowledge remains, you just have to look for it. Or ask for it.
Secondly, if I've posted the SAME answer to a question about overheating/refilling coolant, or what coolant to use, once, I'll have posted it fifty times. I can find it myself using search...so why can't newbies? It's because they often do one search and give up, or don't bother, just post. After all, we ALL think OUR car is the most important and that OUR question should generate an instant answer, don't we? I mean, be honest? And the coolant question is just an example.
So when I see that question now, and I haven't time to type it all out again, I refer them to my posts on the subject...should make it easier to find. IF they then come back later and say they still can't find it, I often find the time to re-type it.
Thirdly, the make-up of the site has changed A LOT. If you post now with advice gained from YEARS working with, owning and discussing these cars, you quite often get shouted down...and not politely, I might say. I have seen things like, "Ignore that moron, he's just old and doesn't like us to have fun. Do what you said...it will be OK, it worked fine on my RS Turbo...." I mean, seriously? And then people expect those of us spoken to like that, referred to like that, to just continue to help when needed? Many, many people have packed up and left the site over that sort of behaviour. I suppose if it were a one-off, they might be accused of being a bit thin-skinned, but it's NOT.
Fourthly.....bear in mind this is an internet forum. Many of us on here have other lives. We are not all say waiting for YOUR comment. Yes, we will help, but we may be away from the computer, or busy and have only a minute.
Try and be patient.
Ask your question ONCE and wait for answers.
Type clearly.
Read what you wrote BEFORE posting.
Give full details of the car, mods, etc etc. (would you ask a doctor for help by saying "someone has a pain"?
Don't use text speak.
If you post later at night, expect a modicum of tipsy answers.
And make replies CLEAR...be clear about your meaning...the smilies are there for a purpose!
Above all, don't come on here wanting a certain answer, and get annoyed, abusive, stroppy etc when you DON'T get the answer you want. It helps no-one.
I could go on. I, personally, have received abusive PM's from a member for suggesting that it is better to post a question in ONE place, not two, or three times, so that ALL answers are also in one place, and we can see what others have said too. (This allows any erroneous advice to be challenged). Abuse for that? And some might still wonder why many earlier members have gone, and no longer choose to share their knowledge.
In no way is this post aimed at the OP on this thread, it's just a message to all, shall we say, newer members?
I recently started using SN again after being away for a while, and enjoy coming on and browsing and also TRY to help as much as I can. Some good guys on here
29 January 2014, 09:58 PM
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thanks to all for posting,that was interesting reading and some great points, would love to see some moderators or some tuning companys have there say on this, but im glad i posted as ive got a little faith back
29 January 2014, 11:51 PM
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[QUOTE="Fudgey;11337484"]I think its more to do with everyone being a comedian. This site is useless for advice 95% of the time.
I have had the odd bit of help but mostly just the usual bandwagon jumpers etc.
Agree^^
I have had the odd bit of help but mostly just the usual bandwagon jumpers etc.
Agree^^
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Its not about Google though,its about a community of subaru owners being mates and sharing experiences and asking advice. Yes there is a search option (which is usually hard work) and also defeats the object of being a community and you might aswell just google it and be Billy no mates lol. If the questions have been asked before then surely long term members can answer them quickly & easily or provide a link to an old post! At the end of the day there is only so many questions/topics you can talk about when it comes to cars,especially one particular make of car,so things are bound to be repeated (often). if people are sick of answering stuff they know about which I can appreciate gets boring repeating yourself or questions are not challenging enough,then you need to have a break from this site and maybe take a new hobbie so you can appreciate whats its like to be a newby again 
30 January 2014, 11:53 AM
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And that's how it's getting.
If I see a question I haven't answered before, or not recently, and I CAN answer, I will.
But if I only responded the week before........?????
And what should I do if I get asked the same question, but the last time I answered, the responder was rude, abusive etc, and loads of his mates turned up and basically slagged me off? Because I didn't give the answer he wanted?
And what should I do if I've given an answer from my own experience, but responder argues that that can't be the case because it was "fine on my RS Turbo"?
Should I bother in future?
It's a bit more complicated than the last two posts make out.......yes, it's an internet site, NOT a database, but lots of folk use it AS a database, myself included.
Be sensible: If you approached, say, CAB for advice, then were rude, abusive and argued against the advice, telling all and sundry that they talk crap "because they are old", what do you imagine MIGHT be their response if you ask again? And if this happened time and tiome again, do you imagine the advisers just might withdraw their services?
So the next time someone turns up and thinks, "Hang on, this place has gone downhill, ", perhaps you'll know why?
Or maybe not.......
30 January 2014, 01:34 PM
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Agree totally with Alcazar.
What I see more and more is new, lazy members.
Because they don't want to pay for the full membership, they try to be sneaky by listing their car for sale in DIY or some obscure section.
Others post a thread about a which dump valve to fit. It doesn't matter how logical you make the argument for keeping the standard valve, they have it set in their mind that they have to spend money on something. Usually at the expense of proper maintenance.
And it really does **** me off when they come out with the same old cr&p - 'I've searched but couldn't find anything.' Most are either lying or just haven't read the sticky on how to use the search function properly.
Then there are the great posts about being slower than car X, Y or Z.
May be it's a maturity thing.
Personally, I don't think this site has gone down hill. It went through a bad patch a few years ago when it seemed to be fashionable to 'troll'. And the infractions....oh the infractions!
But today, I think the site has got rid of a lot of dead rot so to speak.
It is nice to see new blood getting interested in the Impreza, but all too often, it is ruined by bad knowledge/mods.
What I see more and more is new, lazy members.
Because they don't want to pay for the full membership, they try to be sneaky by listing their car for sale in DIY or some obscure section.
Others post a thread about a which dump valve to fit. It doesn't matter how logical you make the argument for keeping the standard valve, they have it set in their mind that they have to spend money on something.
Usually at the expense of proper maintenance.And it really does **** me off when they come out with the same old cr&p - 'I've searched but couldn't find anything.' Most are either lying or just haven't read the sticky on how to use the search function properly.
Then there are the great posts about being slower than car X, Y or Z.
May be it's a maturity thing.
Personally, I don't think this site has gone down hill. It went through a bad patch a few years ago when it seemed to be fashionable to 'troll'. And the infractions....oh the infractions!
But today, I think the site has got rid of a lot of dead rot so to speak.
It is nice to see new blood getting interested in the Impreza, but all too often, it is ruined by bad knowledge/mods.
30 January 2014, 01:45 PM
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30 January 2014, 01:54 PM
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Always had help with everthing I've needed help with from the guy's on here. Just need patience for the right lads to respond. Usually when the search won't find what I need on the site I type it in google and that finds what I need on scoobynet. Hate to mention RS25 but love the technical archives and modding sections there. Wish SN had the same but I still think SN is great. I do see the same question asked over and over hear though.
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But imagine how UTTERLY SH1TE it would be if every newby asked the SAME two or three questions? And then argued against the answer he got? Rudely?
And that's how it's getting.
If I see a question I haven't answered before, or not recently, and I CAN answer, I will.
But if I only responded the week before........?????
And what should I do if I get asked the same question, but the last time I answered, the responder was rude, abusive etc, and loads of his mates turned up and basically slagged me off? Because I didn't give the answer he wanted?
And what should I do if I've given an answer from my own experience, but responder argues that that can't be the case because it was "fine on my RS Turbo"?
Should I bother in future?
It's a bit more complicated than the last two posts make out.......yes, it's an internet site, NOT a database, but lots of folk use it AS a database, myself included.
Be sensible: If you approached, say, CAB for advice, then were rude, abusive and argued against the advice, telling all and sundry that they talk crap "because they are old", what do you imagine MIGHT be their response if you ask again? And if this happened time and tiome again, do you imagine the advisers just might withdraw their services?
So the next time someone turns up and thinks, "Hang on, this place has gone downhill, ", perhaps you'll know why?
Or maybe not.......
30 January 2014, 02:23 PM
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The regulars are getting fed up of the same old questions though
Last year dump valves were done to death with many 5-10 pages
Yet we still get them asking
I fact can't remember the last new technical question that no one could answer
But the search is good and will produce many threads if used
The regulars don't like text speech though
Last year dump valves were done to death with many 5-10 pages
Yet we still get them asking
I fact can't remember the last new technical question that no one could answer
But the search is good and will produce many threads if used
The regulars don't like text speech though
30 January 2014, 03:29 PM
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IMO if youre a newb then you won't get a reply from the regulars because like been said above been asked previously and they don't know what kind of reply their going to get back wether it be abuse or not listen to advise given as a lot have done this prior, and with the new wave of Subaru owners that have been bought cheaply brings in the new breed that have come from Saxos etc so that breed is not what Subaru enthusiasts like as they use txt speech and so on.
However if it's a regular that posts a question then you'll see it gets answered as the repliers know what their getting.
Build your reputation by going on fight club
However if it's a regular that posts a question then you'll see it gets answered as the repliers know what their getting.
Build your reputation by going on fight club
30 January 2014, 03:48 PM
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IMO if youre a newb then you won't get a reply from the regulars because like been said above been asked previously and they don't know what kind of reply their going to get back wether it be abuse or not listen to advise given as a lot have done this prior, and with the new wave of Subaru owners that have been bought cheaply brings in the new breed that have come from Saxos etc so that breed is not what Subaru enthusiasts like as they use txt speech and so on.
However if it's a regular that posts a question then you'll see it gets answered as the repliers know what their getting.
Build your reputation by going on fight club
However if it's a regular that posts a question then you'll see it gets answered as the repliers know what their getting.
Build your reputation by going on fight club
p.s. whr do i gt a wrc sticker kit m8
30 January 2014, 04:41 PM
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Not so much out of fashion, just that the newer Imprezas left something out.
So people looked, saw, and bought something else.
When I bought mine, (1998), first off I had to order and wait a MINIMUM of six months for it to come. It has/had the looks of most Tokyo taxis. The interior was/is poorly finished, and lacking even the most basic stuff like cupholders, plus it rattles and squeaks like a good'un. But there was absolutely NOTHING near it in terms of performance for the money...I know, I looked, and I looked for three months!
However, once the import restrictions came off, things went downhill. My model won several awards for reliability, and customer satisfaction. Dealers were keen to help.
Oh how things have changed.
Still we get a car not as good as the ones sold in japan, and still we pay heavily MORE than they do.
But the reliability has gone, dealers are keen to absolve themselves of any responsibility and even the looks have got MORE bland and ugly, if that were possible.
So is there any wonder that those who owned and loved the classics, have not really taken to a newage? And especially not the dreaded hatch?
I mean, seriously? Mine runs 400/400 or so in a classic. It also has coilovers, and other suspension mods.
I'd be a fool to swap it for a newer car which would be worse in everything EXCEPT newness and interior. Unless I had £££££ to mod again. I haven't.
Just my two penn'orth.
So people looked, saw, and bought something else.
When I bought mine, (1998), first off I had to order and wait a MINIMUM of six months for it to come. It has/had the looks of most Tokyo taxis. The interior was/is poorly finished, and lacking even the most basic stuff like cupholders, plus it rattles and squeaks like a good'un. But there was absolutely NOTHING near it in terms of performance for the money...I know, I looked, and I looked for three months!
However, once the import restrictions came off, things went downhill. My model won several awards for reliability, and customer satisfaction. Dealers were keen to help.
Oh how things have changed.
Still we get a car not as good as the ones sold in japan, and still we pay heavily MORE than they do.
But the reliability has gone, dealers are keen to absolve themselves of any responsibility and even the looks have got MORE bland and ugly, if that were possible.
So is there any wonder that those who owned and loved the classics, have not really taken to a newage? And especially not the dreaded hatch?
I mean, seriously? Mine runs 400/400 or so in a classic. It also has coilovers, and other suspension mods.
I'd be a fool to swap it for a newer car which would be worse in everything EXCEPT newness and interior. Unless I had £££££ to mod again. I haven't.
Just my two penn'orth.