Am I being thick or something ( flood prevention).
19 February 2014, 12:02 PM
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River management is apparently quite a complex and counter-intuitive science. For example 'improving' a river can actually make flooding worse or shift it to somewhere else up or down stream.
From what I can tell - as a laymen who has read a few articles - our major problem is not having enough trees and vegetation in catchment areas. Instead our farmers keep grassland as they get subsidies for it. Having trees radically improves the soils ability to soak up the rain and stop it running straight off.
From what I can tell - as a laymen who has read a few articles - our major problem is not having enough trees and vegetation in catchment areas. Instead our farmers keep grassland as they get subsidies for it. Having trees radically improves the soils ability to soak up the rain and stop it running straight off.
19 February 2014, 12:49 PM
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Why should I pay for the EA, the council or Prince Harry to try and protect a home that someone has stupidly built on a flood plain? They get flooded - the clue is in the name 
I'm happy to pay for those poor animals to be moved when their barn floods which is a very rare event.
Just keep to the old fashioned concepts - flood plains kept clear with plenty of grass and trees, limited dredging only.
Somewhere on the EA website is a link to about 20 or 30 different types of water barriers that are available.
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I'm happy to pay for those poor animals to be moved when their barn floods which is a very rare event.
Just keep to the old fashioned concepts - flood plains kept clear with plenty of grass and trees, limited dredging only.
Somewhere on the EA website is a link to about 20 or 30 different types of water barriers that are available.
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19 February 2014, 01:19 PM
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Simply put you know nothing, your somewhere between clueless and uneducated, at least on this subject, can't comment on other subjects lol
19 February 2014, 01:28 PM
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lmao at this threadd, there are some very clueless and nieve (sp) people out there.
First off, rivers are not part of the water companies remit, they are EA's, so dredged or not, its nothing to do with the water companies.
Second, water companies can sort out the flooding problems if you want, water bills would need to go up over a grand a month at least, but can be done.
Third, water companies are nto funded by the government at all, they are regulated by offwat, but they get their money from the bills.
Fourth, the water rates are set by offwat, not the water companies.
Fith, the volume of water than has fallen in past months is huge, your talking months of water in days. no system can cope with that unless you spend trillions on it, which would go on your bills
Sixth, water companies are constantly updating and modernising theirs sites and equipment, they have operational lives of 20-30 years, so they have to be replaced, let alone the network expanded.
now i could go on and on and on prob up into 50's of reasons, but theres no point.
and to answer a few question, no i dont work for a water company, i work for a consulting engineer that supports water companies, so if bills went up more work for me
First off, rivers are not part of the water companies remit, they are EA's, so dredged or not, its nothing to do with the water companies.
Second, water companies can sort out the flooding problems if you want, water bills would need to go up over a grand a month at least, but can be done.
Third, water companies are nto funded by the government at all, they are regulated by offwat, but they get their money from the bills.
Fourth, the water rates are set by offwat, not the water companies.
Fith, the volume of water than has fallen in past months is huge, your talking months of water in days. no system can cope with that unless you spend trillions on it, which would go on your bills
Sixth, water companies are constantly updating and modernising theirs sites and equipment, they have operational lives of 20-30 years, so they have to be replaced, let alone the network expanded.
now i could go on and on and on prob up into 50's of reasons, but theres no point.
and to answer a few question, no i dont work for a water company, i work for a consulting engineer that supports water companies, so if bills went up more work for me
19 February 2014, 01:34 PM
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Not a lot evidently
19 February 2014, 05:29 PM
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19 February 2014, 08:50 PM
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Even the classical economist would see an element of rent-seeking in owning essential infrastructure and licenses to provide certain public services.
19 February 2014, 09:27 PM
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Or save a railway line in Dorset lol.
19 February 2014, 09:41 PM
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20 February 2014, 02:20 AM
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If you can't tell the difference you are a fvcking idiot
Humans can live without world of leather sofas, they would struggle to without water
Nothing is "free"' that's why I "agreed" in my post - but you are such a total tool, you can't grasp the meaning of my reply and just made an "oh I see your one of those etc etc" reply
I took issue with your blanket "anything" crap, you utter simpleton
Like I said water is not "anything"
You are you made of cardboard? because you come over as utterly one dimensional
Humans can live without world of leather sofas, they would struggle to without water
Nothing is "free"' that's why I "agreed" in my post - but you are such a total tool, you can't grasp the meaning of my reply and just made an "oh I see your one of those etc etc" reply
I took issue with your blanket "anything" crap, you utter simpleton
Like I said water is not "anything"
You are you made of cardboard? because you come over as utterly one dimensional
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20 February 2014, 06:31 AM
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If you can't tell the difference you are a fvcking idiot
Humans can live without world of leather sofas, they would struggle to without water
Nothing is "free"' that's why I "agreed" in my post - but you are such a total tool, you can't grasp the meaning of my reply and just made an "oh I see your one of those etc etc" reply
I took issue with your blanket "anything" crap, you utter simpleton
Like I said water is not "anything"
You are you made of cardboard? because you come over as utterly one dimensional
Humans can live without world of leather sofas, they would struggle to without water
Nothing is "free"' that's why I "agreed" in my post - but you are such a total tool, you can't grasp the meaning of my reply and just made an "oh I see your one of those etc etc" reply
I took issue with your blanket "anything" crap, you utter simpleton
Like I said water is not "anything"
You are you made of cardboard? because you come over as utterly one dimensional
20 February 2014, 07:32 AM
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Don't judge me by your own narrow, small minded arrogant standards, someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing
"British gas profits, guess how many shares i have etc etc"
Like a fvcking broken record
"British gas profits, guess how many shares i have etc etc"
Like a fvcking broken record
20 February 2014, 10:32 AM
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Water and energy should never have been allowed to find its way into the hands of private companies! Yes there are plenty who will argue otherwise, but they either diectly make money by working for these private companies or have shares in them.
Normal grounded people on the other hand can see it is plainly wrong!
Normal grounded people on the other hand can see it is plainly wrong!
20 February 2014, 11:30 AM
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Water and energy should never have been allowed to find its way into the hands of private companies! Yes there are plenty who will argue otherwise, but they either diectly make money by working for these private companies or have shares in them.
Normal grounded people on the other hand can see it is plainly wrong!
Normal grounded people on the other hand can see it is plainly wrong!
Lmao, you realy are clueless hahahahahaha
20 February 2014, 11:46 AM
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Water and energy should never have been allowed to find its way into the hands of private companies! Yes there are plenty who will argue otherwise, but they either diectly make money by working for these private companies or have shares in them.
Normal grounded people on the other hand can see it is plainly wrong!
Normal grounded people on the other hand can see it is plainly wrong!
20 February 2014, 12:26 PM
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20 February 2014, 01:16 PM
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You will doubtless give all sorts of financial arguments and illustrations of why the public sector is bad, but that will be because you have been force fed them by the industry you work for who have a vested interest in profiting from what is a human essential!
Water should not be rationed to the people for the profit of a few. End of!
Now kindly f**k off and take your baised capitalist garbage and shove it up your ****!
20 February 2014, 01:24 PM
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Im also a water rate payer as well, so i see both sides of it.
Water is free if you capture the rain water ro drink from puddles, not sure you'd like the consiquences though lol
Stop trolling F1 lol
Water is free if you capture the rain water ro drink from puddles, not sure you'd like the consiquences though lol
Stop trolling F1 lol
20 February 2014, 01:30 PM
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Accept that not everyone thinks privatisation is a good thing because it's not! I love how just because you work for one of thse profit harvesting misery makers you think you are some authority on society because that is what this issue boils down to... not bloody money!. Go and get some education of the bigger life picture FFS!
20 February 2014, 02:22 PM
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Tidgy's definition of trolling: someone who is clueless and basing there arguments on media bull ****e so doesn't agree with his point of view!
Accept that not everyone thinks privatisation is a good thing because it's not! I love how just because you work for one of thse profit harvesting misery makers you think you are some authority on society because that is what this issue boils down to... not bloody money!. Go and get some education of the bigger life picture FFS!
Accept that not everyone thinks privatisation is a good thing because it's not! I love how just because you work for one of thse profit harvesting misery makers you think you are some authority on society because that is what this issue boils down to... not bloody money!. Go and get some education of the bigger life picture FFS!
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20 February 2014, 02:43 PM
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Sorry, but there is no earthly reason why water should and could not be provided aby a state owned non-profit making set up and do just as good a job without the need to generate any profit for its shareholders ergo making water cheaper for all.
The point I am making is not really able to be argued against hence why you resort to calling me clueless and making pathetic little edits with no substance to your repartee!
You work for one of these organisations, what possible level of neutrality can you have in any argument when the place you work at tells you how wonderful they are at every opportunity?
How thick are you that you can dare to think you can have a more valid opinion than me? I am about 40 points up the IQ ladder from you for starters.
The point I am making is not really able to be argued against hence why you resort to calling me clueless and making pathetic little edits with no substance to your repartee!
You work for one of these organisations, what possible level of neutrality can you have in any argument when the place you work at tells you how wonderful they are at every opportunity?
How thick are you that you can dare to think you can have a more valid opinion than me? I am about 40 points up the IQ ladder from you for starters.
20 February 2014, 02:49 PM
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Sorry, but there is no earthly reason why water should and could not be provided aby a state owned non-profit making set up and do just as good a job without the need to generate any profit for its shareholders ergo making water cheaper for all.
The point I am making is not really able to be argued against hence why you resort to calling me clueless and making pathetic little edits with no substance to your repartee!
You work for one of these organisations, what possible level of neutrality can you have in any argument when the place you work at tells you how wonderful they are at every opportunity?
How thick are you that you can dare to think you can have a more valid opinion than me? I am about 40 points up the IQ ladder from you for starters.
The point I am making is not really able to be argued against hence why you resort to calling me clueless and making pathetic little edits with no substance to your repartee!
You work for one of these organisations, what possible level of neutrality can you have in any argument when the place you work at tells you how wonderful they are at every opportunity?
How thick are you that you can dare to think you can have a more valid opinion than me? I am about 40 points up the IQ ladder from you for starters.
What do you do for work?
20 February 2014, 02:53 PM
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You work for one of these organisations, what possible level of neutrality can you have in any argument when the place you work at tells you how wonderful they are at every opportunity?
How thick are you that you can dare to think you can have a more valid opinion than me? I am about 40 points up the IQ ladder from you for starters.
How thick are you that you can dare to think you can have a more valid opinion than me? I am about 40 points up the IQ ladder from you for starters.
20 February 2014, 03:04 PM
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No let's not as what I do has nothing to do with this argument. The costs involved and the infrastructure would be the same regardless of whether it is run by a private company or a state owned operation, what's your point?
20 February 2014, 03:11 PM
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haha, exactly. so why are you being ripped off then hahaha, you muppet shot yourself down
