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tbh i find it hard to empathise with alot of the african countries, 60% or more or the aid they get ends up on buying weapons. Also they have alot of natural resource they have squandered for years. unless they sort the problems out internaly aid is a waste of time.
supose some will say thats a contraversial opinion, but seems pretty valid.
supose some will say thats a contraversial opinion, but seems pretty valid.
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I think the term squandered is inaccurate. If you are looking for someone to blame, blame the west. A classic example is the Congo, by all rights Congo should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world with its rich natural resources. It even has > 30% of the worlds estimated diamond supply.
But Corporate influence on politics there has basically made it one of the poorest in the world. Dan Snow did a very interesting documentary on the place earlier this year.
But Corporate influence on politics there has basically made it one of the poorest in the world. Dan Snow did a very interesting documentary on the place earlier this year.
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John, that is really interesting and the suggested solution is quite counter-intuitive (but well reasoned and logical nevertheless).
Cliff Notes:
To solve world population we must either:
a) Nuke Africa or,
b) Give everyone in Africa a Volvo
Cliff Notes:
To solve world population we must either:
a) Nuke Africa or,
b) Give everyone in Africa a Volvo
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I think the term squandered is inaccurate. If you are looking for someone to blame, blame the west. A classic example is the Congo, by all rights Congo should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world with its rich natural resources. It even has > 30% of the worlds estimated diamond supply.
But Corporate influence on politics there has basically made it one of the poorest in the world. Dan Snow did a very interesting documentary on the place earlier this year.
But Corporate influence on politics there has basically made it one of the poorest in the world. Dan Snow did a very interesting documentary on the place earlier this year.
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So they have just announced on ITV news that there will shortly be a mass produced Malaria Vaccine available, created by the UK's GSK laboratories.
Fantastic.
It is estimated it will save millions of lives across Africa. Great.
However this is a country with population explosion, famine, farming problems and not enough food for the population.
how will this effect the country with millions of more people every year?
an interesting thought, playing devils advocate here!!
discuss........
Fantastic.
It is estimated it will save millions of lives across Africa. Great.
However this is a country with population explosion, famine, farming problems and not enough food for the population.
how will this effect the country with millions of more people every year?
an interesting thought, playing devils advocate here!!
discuss........
A cure for cancer or obesity will cause more problems worldwide.
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Hardly IMO, you're asking the question that no western government wants to talk about, but we continue to ignore at our peril.
A basic question of mine is why would it a bad thing if we no longer have to build new houses, yet it seems to be used a yard stick as to if the country is economically healthy or not?
A basic question of mine is why would it a bad thing if we no longer have to build new houses, yet it seems to be used a yard stick as to if the country is economically healthy or not?
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tbh i find it hard to empathise with alot of the african countries, 60% or more or the aid they get ends up on buying weapons. Also they have alot of natural resource they have squandered for years. unless they sort the problems out internaly aid is a waste of time.
supose some will say thats a contraversial opinion, but seems pretty valid.
supose some will say thats a contraversial opinion, but seems pretty valid.
Really?
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This product from GSK is considered as important as the discovery of penicillin and has the potential to completely eradicate malaria from the planet, which can't be a BAD thing, Shirley.
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There are plenty of other things that African people will still be able to die with e.g. diseases caused due to malnutrition, gastric infections due to bad drinking water, AIDS, Diabetes etc.
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You stated a fact, now it's something you've 'herd' 'branded' around.
This 'fact' is of course utter nonsense, but don't let that stop you!
You just believe what you want to believe.
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Africa's problem is tribalism. But also the legacy of colonisation that brought sub-Saharan Africa from not even having the wheel to having the internet a with in a few hundred years.. But that truth isn't popular with the shouty PC crowd.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8535189.stm
in that case it was estimated to be 95%
i doubt the true amount will ever actualy be known, but it doesn't take much searchign aorudn to find alot of it in the news.
even band aid money went for arms, figure varies from low 2 mill to 20% of the 1.5bill raised. fair enough not 60% but there is definatly a substantial amount
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If you mean India learnt a few good things of the West e.g. birth control (no matter how frighteningly and overly populated India still remains) and a bit of practical logic such as wear footwear when the ground is hot- doesn't matter whether Gandhi did that or not, that surely is a good thing? It doesn't make India West's b!tch/ poor relations, does it? The majority in India said 'fcck off' to the West for its attempt to brainwash poor Indian masses with Christianity, whereas in may parts of Africa, Christian missionaries are doing quite well for themselves.
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Suresh has stated why Africa has fallen behind, but you comparing Africa to India makes no sense in this way.
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Africa is a pretty ****ing big place and the problems facing Morocco or Algeria are Not the same ones facing Tanzania or the Congo or south Africa. Africa as a continent has enough resources for its people, it's just a question of whether it's people ever get access to them. Over population and food shortages will soon be a European problem more than an African one.
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The lack of humanity is this thread is sickening. Yeah, let's not use science to cure a disease that kills many men, women and children, who are mothers, fathers and people's children, because a bunch of comparatively well-off people in another country thousands of miles away judge them to be less worthy than someone else, based on some 'facts' which they heard from the next person, who heard it from the pub landlord, who made it up.
These people, born into circumstances over which they have no control should die because of this? Get real.
Oh, and before some smart alec chimes in to say 'oh, but they do have a choice', does this child have a choice?
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Of course not.
You should all be ashamed.
These people, born into circumstances over which they have no control should die because of this? Get real.
Oh, and before some smart alec chimes in to say 'oh, but they do have a choice', does this child have a choice?
![](http://www.ghfn.org/Topics/Malaria/PhotoGallery/Malaria-kid-04.jpg)
Of course not.
You should all be ashamed.
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