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Old 05 October 2002, 08:37 PM
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I'm currently running ISDN via a router and hub setup, if I move to ADSL what solutions are there for running multiple PC's - I ask the question 'cos most ADSL connections are via USB.

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you can get a adsl modem router with 4-port (all in one), therefore can do without the usb modem.

have a look at www.seg.co.uk and www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk for netgear DG814, d-link DSL-504 and vigor 2600.
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Broadbandbuyer is run by a scoobynetter and I believe he's mentioned a 5% S'Net discount before....

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As you have already got a hub, go for a single port router - should come in at less than £100 and that's 10-base-100
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We use a Hub and internet connection sharing in XP

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Old 06 October 2002, 04:36 PM
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thanks chaps, yup I run XP but didn't want to have to turn on both PC's etc so I'll just get a USB router

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cost of USB Modem plus USB hub is, more often than not, more expensive than buying an Ethernet router.

The router also gives better performance

IMHO, of course
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well, the cheapest of the cheap (and by no means less on features or performance) for a 1-port adsl modem/router is £52+VAT (£61.09) or a 4-port adsl modem/router is £64+VAT (£75.19).

with a router, you dont need to keep any PC on, just plug network cable into the router and you got internet sharing.
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sounds just the thing...
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If the "router" is to be left on all the time - make sure it has a firewall built in.

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or run Network Address Transaltion thus giving all your computers (Mac or PC, etc) a private IP address
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A firewall adds to the security of pure NAT (actually PAT ) by ensuring that TCP sessions are monitored etc. Too many people also set up a default internal forwarding address which negates the benefits of being hidden by PAT.

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Deano,

All the Routers I have looked at and reviewed with the intention of giving to our customers come with Port Address Translation (PAT) as an option but by default it is turned off. Some customers have opened port 25 to a specific private IP in order to have SMTP mail but we recommend this type of user takes a No-NAT config from us and then install a hardware firewall which then runs NAT (for stuff originating from within the LAN) and PAT (for stuff originating from outside of the LAN coming in)

Are you doing it differently?

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Nope - Just diff in terminology. For me, NAT is 1 to 1 mappings of Outside to Inside Addresses and vice versa (not particulalry relevant for BB setups - but very relevant for my day-to-day stuff.) PAT is Hiding all internal addresses behind one Outside NAT address.

For the mapping of ports to internal addresses tend to call
it "port forwarding".

Too many home users find the "default inside address" and just let everything incoming through and leave it at that - Killing many of the advantages they'd just gained themselves by having a NAT/PAT firewall.

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