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28 April 2003, 12:53 PM
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/22/30423.html
I'm struggling to see the difference between that and 64k ISDN dial-up with a BT OpenWoe account like I have now.
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I'm struggling to see the difference between that and 64k ISDN dial-up with a BT OpenWoe account like I have now.
Anyone else
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28 April 2003, 12:56 PM
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I guess the cost of line rental and ISP will be cheaper than HH?
Originally (as it says at the bottom of the article) everyone thought it would use the spare 16K channel so that you can get e-mail all the time.
Oh well.
Steve.
I guess the cost of line rental and ISP will be cheaper than HH?
Originally (as it says at the bottom of the article) everyone thought it would use the spare 16K channel so that you can get e-mail all the time.
Oh well.
Steve.
28 April 2003, 01:44 PM
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I thought the D channel was always on anyway, its just that when ISDN first came out, BT didn't twig onto this, and a number of people were doing email down it......
That soon got stopped
Im going back to early 90's(ish) for this, so I could of course be talking complete tosh
That soon got stopped
Im going back to early 90's(ish) for this, so I could of course be talking complete tosh
28 April 2003, 01:54 PM
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The D channel is always on, but your ISP has to support it. None do in the UK as far as I'm aware, certainly no "home" ISP's.
AS for the 128K comment above you can do that now with HH using 123isp or (spit) Gio. With more than 150 hours as well....
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The D channel is always on, but your ISP has to support it. None do in the UK as far as I'm aware, certainly no "home" ISP's.
AS for the 128K comment above you can do that now with HH using 123isp or (spit) Gio. With more than 150 hours as well....
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28 April 2003, 02:02 PM
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28 April 2003, 02:03 PM
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I too am struggling to see exactly how total cost will stack up against an existing HH/Anytime combination.
I havent seen anything yet to explain whether it will HH like and using 128K will use the Analogue phone channel, or whether midband will be delivered over a new line giving simultaneous voice+128K (I very much doubt it will do).
Having been fortunate to have free 128k ISDN for a while (sadly no more). the benefit of 128k over 64K is noticable but not suffcient for me to pay the required extra at the moment. Looks like the "always-on" aspect is gone which would have been a clear advantage.
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I havent seen anything yet to explain whether it will HH like and using 128K will use the Analogue phone channel, or whether midband will be delivered over a new line giving simultaneous voice+128K (I very much doubt it will do).
Having been fortunate to have free 128k ISDN for a while (sadly no more). the benefit of 128k over 64K is noticable but not suffcient for me to pay the required extra at the moment. Looks like the "always-on" aspect is gone which would have been a clear advantage.
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From what I have heard - When the phone is not in use the midband will use the two channels resulting in 128k. When an incoming or outgoing call is established then midband will drop down to 64k to accommodate the voice call. Once the voice call is dropped, midband will go back up to 128k - thus you get always on, use your phone at the same time resulty in a cheap 
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28 April 2003, 02:56 PM
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the benefit of 128k over 64K is noticable
Browse SN on OpenWoe Anytime and the forum index chugs up.
Hit it through Titan and it flies. Easily as quick as our 10Mbps connection here at work.
Back on Midband, looks like BT have some work to do to differentiate the offerings. Given switched on IT folks can't see a big difference, what will your average home user make of it?
28 April 2003, 03:40 PM
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HH works out at £25 per month on DD, add Anytime (for example) at £14.99 and it comes down to a few quid.
Hardly worth the effort on BTs part is it?
Hardly worth the effort on BTs part is it?
28 April 2003, 03:45 PM
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I actually use FreeServe anytime on ISDN and am constantly amazed at how un-crap it is .
If Titan did an anytime account I'd change like a shot
Puff - I dont think any "routing" will be removed. Probably the reverse. There's a fair amount of invisible tunneling for most dsl circuits. in some cases you can be fewer real hops from the "actual" internet (whatever that might be ) with a direct dial to an isp. As speeds increase hop-count becomes far less relevant to latency (ping) anyway.
I do wonder what the NTE will be and waht sort of functionality it will give. It will have to be good to persuade me to dump my ISDN Cisco 1603....
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. If Titan did an anytime account I'd change like a shot
Puff - I dont think any "routing" will be removed. Probably the reverse. There's a fair amount of invisible tunneling for most dsl circuits. in some cases you can be fewer real hops from the "actual" internet (whatever that might be
) with a direct dial to an isp. As speeds increase hop-count becomes far less relevant to latency (ping) anyway.I do wonder what the NTE will be and waht sort of functionality it will give. It will have to be good to persuade me to dump my ISDN Cisco 1603....
Deano
28 April 2003, 04:19 PM
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VPN: Corporate policy over which I have no control rather than Technical reason
i.e. No general I'Net VPN to Corporate Network. With DSL (As a nominated Homeworker), you can switch your DSL connection to tunnel direct to the Corporate LAN but there are some severe rules over what may or may not be connected to that DSL connection.
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i.e. No general I'Net VPN to Corporate Network. With DSL (As a nominated Homeworker), you can switch your DSL connection to tunnel direct to the Corporate LAN but there are some severe rules over what may or may not be connected to that DSL connection.
Deano
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