Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

Linux network help needed.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 28 November 2003, 05:34 PM
  #1  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

How do I find out what's causing my network to not-work?

The machine in question is a P100 (ancient) with a 3COM 3C509B ISA 10Mbps network card. Module 3C509 is loaded and doesn't offer any errors. I've checked the IFCFG files, HOSTS, HOSTS.ALOC/DENY, HOST.CONF and RESOLV.CONF files. It all looks fine but it doesn't work.

Two other machines can talk quite happily, TELNET/FTP/PING etc. It's only this machine that's knackered. All systems are running 2.2nn Kernel Linux Mandrake 7.0 or 7.1 or 7.2.

I think I need to be able to delete/(re)define the card but how?

Vindaloo.
Old 28 November 2003, 05:47 PM
  #2  
dsmith
Scooby Regular
 
dsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 4,518
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Is it an ISA PnP card ?
Have you told the driver the IO and IRQ ?

Errrr. I've struggled a couple of time recently to get an ISA card to work in Linux (ISDN) searching for ISAPNP might get yo some info...

Deano
Old 28 November 2003, 05:54 PM
  #3  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

I'm currently on GOOGLE searching for info.....erm...there's a lot out there.

I've tried two different cards in two different ISA slots. I've a 3C509-TPO and a 3C509B. I'm concentrating on the B for now.

I'll try the io=0x300 option this evening.

...if that doesn't work, then I'll try bootparm:-
ether=10,0x310,4,0x3c509,eth0 ...or similar.

Vindaloo.

[Edited by vindaloo - 11/28/2003 5:58:57 PM]
Old 28 November 2003, 07:19 PM
  #4  
stevencotton
Scooby Regular
 
stevencotton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: behind twin turbos
Posts: 2,710
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Post

What does 'lspci' say?

Oh, just read it's an ISA and not PCI

[Edited by stevencotton - 11/28/2003 7:20:55 PM]
Old 28 November 2003, 08:04 PM
  #5  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

I've now tried three network cards without success and degraded the situation to the point where the PC would hang if I IFDOWN'd ETH0. The cards are now out of the PC.

I have a 3C509 (1992 vintage) that isn't detected at all by PNPtools. In addition I have 3C509B (1995) and a 3C509B-TPO

From what I've read, I need a config. utility to tell the card (3C509B) it's not to PNP.

Vindaloo.
Old 29 November 2003, 08:11 AM
  #6  
Gedi
Scooby Regular
 
Gedi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 932
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

before you go any further, have you pinged the loopback?
The first step should always be to check the TCP stack is functioning correctly.
Then you can start to work your way through the OSI layers.

If not from what I have read here, it sounds to be a driver issue, but then I suppose you already knew that. Its difficult to be of more help in situations like this without being local to the machine.

Might be worth grabbing a different distro of Linux. Slack tends to have pretty good driver support for older cards. RH and SuSE rarely letyou down with drivers either.
Old 29 November 2003, 02:06 PM
  #7  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Yup, loopback works fine.

This is the first time that these cards have been tried in a "linux only" config. I may have been lucky in the past as Win98 probably sorted out the configs for me. There are SO MANY people having trouble with these cards. Searching on Google reveals reams of the stuff.

I think I'm going to buy a PCI card. opefully my stress level and Bierre 33 consumption level will drop afterwards.

Vindaloo.

Trending Topics

Old 29 November 2003, 06:20 PM
  #8  
Gedi
Scooby Regular
 
Gedi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 932
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

grabbing a new card is a good idea. They are only about a fiver anyway.

I can recommend realtek cards for Linux systems. I have never had any issues with them on any unix like system.
Old 29 November 2003, 10:12 PM
  #9  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Gedi,

An excellent suggestion and spookily what I'd bought this afternoon....

Belkin 10/100 Mbps Realtek for £4.99 from PC world. Now installed and running fine.

Vindaloo.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
greg320
Non Car Related Items For sale
6
11 October 2015 11:44 AM
Phil3822
ICE
3
26 September 2015 07:12 PM
jason62
General Technical
13
21 September 2015 05:20 PM
IWatkins
Non Scooby Related
2
06 February 2001 10:43 PM
IWatkins
ScoobyNet General
1
24 October 2000 10:46 AM



Quick Reply: Linux network help needed.



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:36 AM.