Worth Buying 8x DVD-Writer ?
26 April 2004, 11:50 AM
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Worth Buying 8x DVD-Writer ?
I currenty use a Pioneer 4x DVD-R drive, reckon its worth upgrading to the 107 8x writer ? Or wait for dual layer burners ? Anyone know when they'll be on the scene ? 8x media is now readily available so that is no longer an issue.
26 April 2004, 11:59 AM
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I've just bought a 107. It's my first player and at £70, didn't see any point in saving a few more pennies on a x4.
Is the only benefit to you speed?? If I could say when the dual ones would be out, I may have waited (but only a month or so).
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Is the only benefit to you speed?? If I could say when the dual ones would be out, I may have waited (but only a month or so).
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26 April 2004, 12:04 PM
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The only benefits to be are speed increase from 4x to 8x . . . and DVD+R capability (which I have no use/need for). Benq and Sony are supposed to be releasing dual layer burners Q2 2004, but no signs yet ?
Think I may sit it out for a while . . . . saying that the 8x would only cost me about £30 on top of what I can get for my current drive . . . hmmmm, may be worth it if only for resale value.
Think I may sit it out for a while . . . . saying that the 8x would only cost me about £30 on top of what I can get for my current drive . . . hmmmm, may be worth it if only for resale value.
26 April 2004, 12:12 PM
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Go on!!....
You know you want to..........
I'm thinking along the lines of a 107......... myself
By the time the duals are out and the market has settled (price wise) and the price of media has settled, it'll be a few months down the line surely!!
Phil
....... as you've said.... you can always trade them on and pay the difference to upgrade!!!
You know you want to..........
I'm thinking along the lines of a 107......... myself
By the time the duals are out and the market has settled (price wise) and the price of media has settled, it'll be a few months down the line surely!!
Phil
....... as you've said.... you can always trade them on and pay the difference to upgrade!!!
26 April 2004, 09:17 PM
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taking the Pioneer 106 and 107 as a comparison:
The 106 is a 4x dvd+/- writer
The 107 is an 8x dvd+/- writer
The 106 is a 16x cd writer
The 107 is a 24x cd writer
The 106 and 107 are both now available for under £70!
The price difference between 4x and 8x media is substantial, however, hacked firmware for the 107 will allow 8x burning of 4x dvd-r
Although the drives are marketed as 8x writers, you won't get a 'true' 8x burn.
As a guide, a 4gb file will initialise, burn and finalise in 15mins in a 106
The same 4gb file will initialise, burn and finalise in 9mins in a 107
The 106 is a tried and tested, bulletproof machine whereas the 107 is still relatively new on the market but is future compatible as far as media is concerned.
What you need to ask yourself is do you need to burn a 4gb file 6 minutes faster?
In my opinion, it will be a similar situation to burning cds at 52x If it's audio/video you're backing up, you will have playback errors burning too quickly.
The Pioneer 108 is anticipated to be a 12x burner and the 109 will be dual-layer (expect blank media to cost approx £5 per disk
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Personally, i'm happy using a 106 and see no need to upgrade.
4x DVD-r media pricing will fall in-line with the current cd-r prices by the end of the year so i'm happy to stick with my 106
Paul
The 106 is a 4x dvd+/- writer
The 107 is an 8x dvd+/- writer
The 106 is a 16x cd writer
The 107 is a 24x cd writer
The 106 and 107 are both now available for under £70!
The price difference between 4x and 8x media is substantial, however, hacked firmware for the 107 will allow 8x burning of 4x dvd-r
Although the drives are marketed as 8x writers, you won't get a 'true' 8x burn.
As a guide, a 4gb file will initialise, burn and finalise in 15mins in a 106
The same 4gb file will initialise, burn and finalise in 9mins in a 107
The 106 is a tried and tested, bulletproof machine whereas the 107 is still relatively new on the market but is future compatible as far as media is concerned.
What you need to ask yourself is do you need to burn a 4gb file 6 minutes faster?
In my opinion, it will be a similar situation to burning cds at 52x If it's audio/video you're backing up, you will have playback errors burning too quickly.
The Pioneer 108 is anticipated to be a 12x burner and the 109 will be dual-layer (expect blank media to cost approx £5 per disk
)Personally, i'm happy using a 106 and see no need to upgrade.
4x DVD-r media pricing will fall in-line with the current cd-r prices by the end of the year so i'm happy to stick with my 106
Paul
27 April 2004, 08:45 AM
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Cheers Paul. Good advice as ever.
I have the A05/105 (4x -R only) so I've decided that the upgade to burn +r media as well as 8x on 4x media is worth it for me. Only cost about £28 on top of the sale of my 105 so pretty good really
I've got the firmware to burn 8x on 4x media. Have you tested this Paul ? Whats the reliability like ? I was under the impression that a lot of players have problems with media burnt at speeds over 4x ?
Oh, and when's that damn website of yours going to be up ?
I have the A05/105 (4x -R only) so I've decided that the upgade to burn +r media as well as 8x on 4x media is worth it for me. Only cost about £28 on top of the sale of my 105 so pretty good really
I've got the firmware to burn 8x on 4x media. Have you tested this Paul ? Whats the reliability like ? I was under the impression that a lot of players have problems with media burnt at speeds over 4x ?
Oh, and when's that damn website of yours going to be up ?
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http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=60555Get the above LG 8x all media, +- etc and it also uses DVD RAM all for £68
It has been reviewed by 8 people so far on the site and all have given 5 out of 5
It has been reviewed by 8 people so far on the site and all have given 5 out of 5
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Or get the OEM - no box - still has nero though for £55http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=60872
Don't be tight, buy it now.
Don't be tight, buy it now.
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I bought the Pioneer 107 in the end - £68 inc VAT & delivery I'm sure the LG drive is very good, but the Pioneer drives are proven to be reliable and stable & I've had a few of them, whereas my mates LG is quite the opposite
I'm sure the LG drive is very good, but the Pioneer drives are proven to be reliable and stable & I've had a few of them, whereas my mates LG is quite the opposite
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
I bought the Pioneer 107 in the end - £68 inc VAT & delivery I'm sure the LG drive is very good, but the Pioneer drives are proven to be reliable and stable & I've had a few of them, whereas my mates LG is quite the opposite
I'm sure the LG drive is very good, but the Pioneer drives are proven to be reliable and stable & I've had a few of them, whereas my mates LG is quite the opposite are you able to spill the beans???
27 April 2004, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Legacy4x4Turbo
That's a good price 'inc Del'............
are you able to spill the beans???
are you able to spill the beans???
£63.32 Including VAT
Stock arrives in a few days.
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Of course, they have them here: http://www.burn-media.co.uk/acatalog/DVD_RW_Drives.html
£63.32 Including VAT Stock arrives in a few days.
£63.32 Including VAT
Stock arrives in a few days.Sweeeeeeet!!!
27 April 2004, 02:47 PM
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For DVDRW I've got the NEC2500A model, its brilliant. Multiformat 8X DVDR+/- write and good CDR write as well at 32X, and 40X CD/12X DVD read.
As an added measure I've also got a Samsung 352B CDRW/DVD combo drive. (52X/24X/52X/16X) for copying to the NEC or vice versa
As an added measure I've also got a Samsung 352B CDRW/DVD combo drive. (52X/24X/52X/16X) for copying to the NEC or vice versa
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
I've got the firmware to burn 8x on 4x media. Have you tested this Paul ?
As ever though, the Pioneer drives are proving to be the least fussy about what disks they'll burn.
If you would like more details on our test results and a media recommendation, catch me on MSN.
Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Oh, and when's that damn website of yours going to be up ?
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