Ray_li

I'm gonna get a Xbox 360 but before I do can the xbox 360 be chipped or flashed to play backup games like the xbox?

If it can me chipped or flashed would I be able to play online games as the old xbox did not allow this.

Would it be a chip or a flash?

what chip do you recommend?


Ray

Iain Young

Thankfully no. The protection schemes in place inside the 360 are much more secure than the old xbox, and it's unlikely that they'll be broken any time soon.

J4CKO

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Just pay for the games, they are generally worth it.

Ray_li

what's the deal with region free games like this? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Xbox360-Ga...QQcmdZViewItem

are there really original region free games?

banny sti

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Ray there is a guy local to me that charges £40 to chip the xbox 360 and it will allow you to play back up games like the original xbox.

Banny

gatecrasher3

All wrong mate I'm afraid .

The firmware on the DVD drive can be flashed with a modified version to allow "backups" to be read and subsequently played online.

Also there the firmware that is now available looks exactly the same as the original when checked by MS so as long as the backup you are playing has been stealth patched there is nothing to suggest you aren't using an original disc.

You shouldn't pay more than £35 for a firmware flash but your warranty will be invalid as a result.

Have a look here http://www.team-xecuter.com/

PeteBrant

Yup, but only some - It is basically at the discretion of the publisher whether to region lock. DOA4, Ridge Racer 6 were region free - Dead Rising wasn't. The same deal applied to Xbox, but very few games weren't region locked. You will probably find the same occurs with 360 - 99% of games with be locked, but there will be the odd one that isn't.

bob269

Nobody guarantee's you wont get banned online, do it at your own risk.

Personally I think MS have done a great job in putting together a good package with the console and online content, there are plenty of offers available on games, I don't mind buying them as Jacko says they are worth it, and demos of most games are available to try before you buy.

Mogsi

Out in about 10days...

http://www.modchip-store.co.uk/Fractal-360-p-250.html

STi wanna Subaru

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More Blaster360 Pics/Info, Stock Update for X3IR USB and X360 USB

>> From team-xecuter.com:
Official Site: http://www.team-xecuter.com
Discuss this news item on our forums: forums.xbox-scene.com
(Tuesday 19 September 2006 13:43 EST) - (direct link to article)

gatecrasher3

Very true.

Iain Young

No need to be rude. Last time I looked, they weren't even close to getting it working.

This is very bad news for the software industry (again).

All it'll mean is the smaller companies won't be able to afford to create games (because of the piracy), and the larger companies (EA etc) will just start shoving out even more clones. Unfortunately, piracy is killing innovation. I just hope that it can be detected online so all these people get banned from live.

matdex

I'll try not to be as rude as the last chap but people have been doing this for months. If the games were a reasonable or regimented price then people would think twice about buying originals.

'Piracy is killing innovation' I suppose by buying so called backup games you then fund organised crime and child prostitution all over the world??

Games piracy happened on the original xbox yet games developers are still choosing to work on xbox 360 games?? If it is hampering their sales and innovation why bother?

Nice little 1st post - Hi everyone

Iain Young

Well, Obvilion cost me £40 from gameplay, and took me 95 hours to complete. That works out at about 42p an hour. Doesn't sound like an unreasonable price to me. Show me where you can buy a dvd, or go to the cinema, (or do anything else similar) for that sort of money.

That's a bit extreme. But you are funding scum making money out of other peoples hard work. It's criminal, and it's morally wrong. You might be ok with that, but I'm certainly not.

The 360 is a different system that was supposed to be a lot more secure, so of course people will develop for it. Besides, they still need to make money. Even now the rot is setting in though. PES, Fifa, Amped, PGR, RR6 etc, are all just cheap sequels to the previous versions on the older consoles, and show very little in the way of innovation (just better graphics).

The xbox and the ps2 had innovative games at the beginning of their life cycle, but as piracy has become more rampant, these have dwindled and the games coming out for the platforms these days are basically just cheap copies, (I've not found anything to interest me on the ps2 for over a year now).

Of course, piracy won't be the only reason for this, but it is a contributing factor.

Hello

gatecrasher3

I apologise if you have taken offence to my post. Maybe however it would have been worth you checking your facts before posting perhaps

Iain Young

I did a quick web browse before posting, and the links I found still suggested that it wasn't even close. I didn;t have time to go digging even deeper (I'm supposed to be working )

STi wanna Subaru

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Xbox scene would be the place to keep up to date with the 360 goings on.

matdex

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...+backups&meta=

the first selection is for xbox-scene

bob269

Those pictures are actually rendered and not final product btw

Oh and there's some platinum cheapo titles coming to 360 in October.

Neanderthal

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Fairplay, if people want to hack the 360 to play (lets be honest) copied games but I really do hope that MS will find a way of detecting it so that people can't play copied games online.

gatecrasher3

They probably will find a way but then so will the hackers.

messiah

I wont be getting mine flashed / chipped / whatever - the machine isnt relaible enough so the next time it packs up MS will just give me the big F off and I'll have to buy a new one...

Iain Young

Very true. I've just sent my 3rd one back, and am waiting for them to send me a replacement. Maybe it'll be 4th time lucky...

leonpoole

I bought a backup 360. So when one goes pop (which just has) i still have another one to use. Just hope they dont both go pop together

Neanderthal

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I'm still on my 1st! brought in the month of release.

*touch wood*

messiah

Its a sorry state when you have to buy 2 consoles just to be sure you have one that works when you want to game, and then to worry about them both breaking down together.

And judging by the amount of bad press the PS3 receives this situation is preferable to waiting until they iron the problems out.

leonpoole

Ive heard rumors the next batch of 360's will use different processors that dont't run as hot so it cuts down the amount that die due to hardware faliure problems. Not sure how true it is mind.
PS3 has been slated already before its even released, imagine if that gets all these hardware faliures xbox' have had which is possible.

bugeyeandy

Snap! Although mine only gets used a few hours a month...

Iain Young

I got mine on the day of release last year, and probably use it an hour or two most evenings. First one went wrong after about 5-6 months, and the other two have only lasted a couple of months each.

Can't see that it's overheating as it is on top of the tv unit, is well ventillated, and has a good 1-2 feet clearance all around. It's a great machine, but I'm not impressed with the reliability.

At least I didn't have to send the hard disc back this time, so I haven't lost all my save game data again...

Hanslow

That's a bummer to hear Iain I'm evaluating the robustness of these machines based on which version you are on

I think the industry is in a sad state of affairs ideas-wise. Most games these days are just rehashes of older games with little originality. There are odd gems around though which break the monotony.

This certainly looks interesting and something I'd be prepared to shell out hard cash for