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Old 22 March 2002, 03:41 PM
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Any models/prices and places to get them would be gratefully received.

In another thread somebody mentioned Netgear products (FR314 and RP314). Anyone else recommend this one?

thanks, Mark.

[Edited by bigmac - 3/25/2002 9:38:55 AM]
Old 22 March 2002, 04:07 PM
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BigMac,

Firstly have u got ADSL? if so are r u using the USB ADSL Modem connectioned directly to your PC.

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Old 22 March 2002, 04:15 PM
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yes, went 'live' on adsl yesterday.
I am connected via the USB ADSL Modem supplied by BT.

I've already got 2 pc's networked in the house.

I'm keen to give each pc access to the net, rather than use Internet Connection Sharing.

I also would like to be able to add more pc's to the network in the future.

regards, Mark.
Old 22 March 2002, 04:45 PM
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BigMac - one more question

Did you choose home plug'n'play or home engineer assisted with BTO?
Old 22 March 2002, 04:47 PM
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home plug and play...
Old 22 March 2002, 04:58 PM
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cool - right choice with plug'n'play. I'm abit to busy right now (ona friday afternoon aswell ) so I will reply tonight with a low down on what options you have.

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Old 22 March 2002, 05:38 PM
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Asus do a nice little model for £140 with 1 network port, or £180 with built in 4 port hub. Its what I'm saving for..

http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm

According to ADSL guide its one of the best around..

http://www.adslguide.org/hardware/re..._aam6000ev.asp
Old 22 March 2002, 06:56 PM
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The Asus AAM600EV (I Think) I have had on 'extended test' from Asus in Taiwan for a while now, and its pretty good, needs a few more bits doing to it, like VPN support when running NAT but other than that its pretty good.
Old 22 March 2002, 07:39 PM
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i bought a cable one 2weeks ago Linksys Sr41 4 point router propper good only using 3 of the ports but cant fault it, doesn the job and easy £88 a think need ne more info just email me

Si
Old 22 March 2002, 09:45 PM
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I bought an Efficient Networks EN5861 Router. It is the same model as BT supply to Business customers, but completely uncrippled. Absolutely love it. Robust and fast. NAT translation, Firewall, VPN, the list goes on..... keys can be purchased to make other features available too.

Cheers,

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Old 23 March 2002, 08:46 AM
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Errr...the Essential Network ones that BT supplied are very unreliable, there is a know overheating problem.

As per the previous post I'd check out www.adslguide.org and look at the reviews. I've installed both the Asus one and the Zyxel Prestige 600 and I preferred the Zyxel on set-up.


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mines working great, is it ok to leave it on 24/7 and my pcs aswell???
Old 23 March 2002, 10:20 AM
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Errrr, they aren't bad at all as far as I and many other users are concerned. They are a extremely basic in BT form, but excellent in standard guise.
The overheating heating thing deffo is my only gripe as Jeff said. PTholt's one overheated over chrimbo and burnt a little itty-bitty hole through the casing, toasting itself quite nicely in the process. Think it actually set itself on fire. I keep mine in a well cooled cupboard with the server under the stairs and it runs very cool. With customers, I make sure that they are all slightly ventilated and we have not had a single failure yet.
Bar that 'cough' little niggle aside, they are very, very good, at least IMHO........
Old 23 March 2002, 01:28 PM
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Another vote for the ASUS AAM6000EV I've had mine for a couple of months now and its' been a breeze
Old 23 March 2002, 08:04 PM
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should I be looking at a piece of kit to replace the USB ADSL Modem? Or something the the modem feeds into.

It's just that the routers that don't have the ADSL functionality builit in (ie make use of your existing modem), don't seem to support a USB connection for the ADSL modem (which is what BT sold me).

Also, any recomendations for web sites that sell these pieces of kit. Jungle and a few of the main stream web sites seem to sell them, but is there a specialist site that does them that you would recommend.

regards, Mark.
Old 23 March 2002, 08:44 PM
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I've seen a lot of lock-ups with the BT/Essential ADSL stuff and I've done some 40+ sites now with ADSL....

www.seg.co.uk
or www.insight.com
should be able to sort out your requirements.

Jeff
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Well good for you. I have done close to 30 now so there you go......

Edited to say that I didn't mean that in the arsy sense, just stating a fact like Jeff. One of those things.

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Old 24 March 2002, 10:08 AM
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Mine wasn't mean't to be arsy either. We've had a number of failures with ADSL for a number of clients and almost all occasions its been the BT/Essential networks router thats locked up. The pukka Essential Networks stuff is mean't to be much better (as opposed to the brain dead BT version) but they do still, apparently, suffer from overheating. We're currently looking at Netopia as a business solution because of the ISDN/PSTN backup capability (you can also use the PSTN to connected to the router if the ADSL is no-functioning).

Like I said earlier I was impressed with the Zyxel Prestige and I prefered it to the ASUS box, at least to set up. Seg sell the Draytec range which are mean't to be OK also but I've no direct experience of them.

Just, as always, my thoughts.


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We're looking into the Netopia equipment too.

The dial backup facility exists on the EN equipment too, but you need to buy ar rs232 adapter to do it. I am just intrigued by your views on the EN equipment, as I seem to be on the completely different side of the fence over this and we both do the same jobs. If you have any info regarding this on the web I would be interested in having a read.

Cheers,

Nick
Old 24 March 2002, 01:30 PM
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www.dslsource.co.uk

I have a speedtouch pro 570. Sits downstairs in a cupboard where the adsl line is. We all sit upstairs (got a lan in the house) and never have to visit it.
Old 25 March 2002, 09:15 AM
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Mr Footlong

I’ve only got personal experience to go on (opinions are like ar**holes, everyone has one) and I’m really talking about xDSL in a business environment. The Essential stuff maybe quite good but I’ve seen a lot of problems with the BT version and lock-ups (and rumour is that the ES stuff does the same thing). The type of things I’m going with ADSL/SDSL are in the distributed VPN area and we’re currently designing a 200+ site VPN using ADSL/SDSL and we’ll be using the Netopia equipment so that we can talk to the device without having to visit the site.

Jeff
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Hehehe. That's just the way things go in this game. No doubt, I will probably find that these problems start to pop up. Been lucky so far. I put most of them on their side so at least the vents are pointing upwards instead of being practically on the floor on the bottom sides of the router. .

Anyway, enough said....

Cheers,

Nick
Old 26 March 2002, 04:34 AM
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Jeff W
Bit of advice m8 please.
I have had a Zyxel642R sat here for a couple of months at my home. I am in the middle of a work project and am waiting until it is finished before installing the Zyxel in place of BT Alcatel USB device.

I noticed you said you had installed a Zyxel 600. Any advice tips on a clean install would be appreciated (any major pitfalls?). I make video games for a living and am reasonably tech/code savvy but not a network engineer. I use Blueyonder at the office, over a Gig of glorious bandwidth and have SH** BT ADSL at home as I cant get cable, big mistake I know, I should have checked first, going to move asap to maybe Nildram or other ISP???)
Dave
Old 26 March 2002, 09:33 AM
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Dave

When your ready its quite easy to do...if you get stuck drop me a mail and I'll help out. You appreciate that you'll be breaking your T&Cs with your ISP if you swap out the USB Alcatel.

You should notice a performance increase from the USB thing to a 'proper' router.

Jeff

Don't complain to much about 'only' having ADSL at home...some of us are still waiting for the super speedy broadband Britain to catch up with the other 40% of the country.
Old 26 March 2002, 11:23 AM
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If you go for a wires only install is the router (Asus AAM6000EV) all you need?
Old 26 March 2002, 03:27 PM
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You will also need a Microfilter for each phone socket.

These are only £7 each approx. Solwise
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