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Old 16 June 2002, 07:36 PM
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whats the cheapest DP you've brought from new, i can get a scorpion for 120ish so far, anyone beat that?


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Old 16 June 2002, 07:37 PM
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Would be interested in knowing prices too and where from and what they are made of Plus type.. twin dump etc..

Wheres the scorpion from as that sounds cheap..

Might not bother making one..

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Old 16 June 2002, 08:08 PM
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rang up scorpion and was told to ring Motec (10 quid postage though)


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Old 16 June 2002, 08:31 PM
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can anyone beat that?


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Old 16 June 2002, 08:43 PM
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But the cheapest isnt always the best quality, or best value for money. I Haven seen the scorpion one, but anything I have seen from Scorpion, would make me never buy anything from them. Their stuff is the same price as most other places, but I think the quality is just a ( big )bit below that of some other manufacturers. Spend a few ££ extra, and buy quality.
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don't require quality really, just need the cat removing, a tube is a tube, a weld is a weld etc. (they can't be that bad, my brothers had a few scorpions systems and there's never been any questions on the build quality)


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Old 16 June 2002, 09:34 PM
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i`ve got a scorpion system and the quality is fine. and i think it`s probably the cheapest paid £123 delivered from motec for the downpipe.
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ps it sound`s good to
Old 16 June 2002, 09:40 PM
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123 quid sounds about right, is it single or twin dump?


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Old 16 June 2002, 09:42 PM
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Is the Scorpion Open Neck or Twin-Dump and will it fit a standard center section ?
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forgot to ask, is 2.5 or 3" diameter?

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Old 16 June 2002, 09:49 PM
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the bloke at motec said it would fit standard centre section and the lambda sensor position is the same


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Old 16 June 2002, 10:11 PM
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a weld is not a weld.... but I know what you mean... sounds good price would also like to know what the size and type is...

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Old 16 June 2002, 10:18 PM
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The Scorpion is not an open wastegate type (blanked off) they say this can cause a slight restriction in airflow. Though the quality is quite good. I was going for the scorpion myself but wanted an open wastegate, Bought a Jap Inovations from scoobyworld, think it was about £160.00 plus postage Etc. If you can afford it i would go for the open wastegate every time.

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Old 16 June 2002, 10:19 PM
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was being flipant (spelling?)

HKS do a 3" for 80 quid (japanese price + tons of postage [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] and prob. take a month to get here)


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Old 16 June 2002, 10:21 PM
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sounds like the scorpion is the same as the standard DP but without the cat


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Old 16 June 2002, 10:24 PM
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So the only difference is it's stainless and has no cat.
The connection to the turbo is still to the poor design adopted by Subaru then !!! (i.e the hole is far too small).
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hmm............re-think


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Is the Scoobysport DP an 'open' wastegate design ?
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HKS High flow downpipe £135.00 + vat

now this one maybe better, need to find spec on it


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Old 16 June 2002, 11:40 PM
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is that available in this country at that price??

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Old 16 June 2002, 11:58 PM
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yes, i will enquire tomorrow it's meant to be very loud in comparison to the scoobysport DP


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Old 16 June 2002, 11:59 PM
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Try Mike at Scoobymania - IanW has just had a HKS DP supplied / fitted from Mike. No idea which one, though he did mention it being 3"
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found somewhere that will do it for 150 (should be 160ish ) he's going to look at the turbo end of it and phone us tomorrow

its definetly 3" though and having a 3" system makes sense to use HKS rather than magnex etc. which are 2.5"


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Old 17 June 2002, 06:11 PM
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let me know!

group buy -- even cheaper??

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Old 17 June 2002, 06:13 PM
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he's only got 2 in stock


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Old 17 June 2002, 06:15 PM
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also just found out that magnex are changing the twin dump design due to the second pipe running too close the the steering rack pivot obviously not thought it through enough


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Heres a picture of a Scorpion downpipe for you. I haven't got one yet, just been looking at the options.

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yep thats the one. its a 2.5inch pipe
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Scorpion looks good.
Anyone got piccies of the other 'Neck' designs so that we can see the real differences.

What advantages are there between 'Open','Closed' and 'Tein-dump'.

I have my own thoughts but would like to read those of others.

Also who lists this downpipe. I can't find it on the net anywhere. Only Rear boxes and systems.

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The Scorpion one masks the wastegate. You may as well leave the OEM one on

But, flat4, if you truly believe a weld is a weld, a tube is a tube, I recommend you go for the Scorpion one......


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