Just one cat doesn't come close !!!!
#1
Having read many things on this board I was lead to belive that with only one of the 2 cats removed from the exhaust I would just get through an MOT all ok
Not wanting all the hassell of changeing bits over every year I replaced the back box with an Afterburner and the center with a resonated Magnex and left the downpipe as standard (MY93 WRX)
However I took it to be MOTed and the limit of CO is 0.3%vol and my car tested at a cool 0.9!!!! I asked him to retest and it came in at 0.6 but still nowhere close. Nolw with a bit of sweet talking and the right details put into the machine I have my MOT, but was wondering if this was normal or whatother peoples experiences were
cheers Alistair
Not wanting all the hassell of changeing bits over every year I replaced the back box with an Afterburner and the center with a resonated Magnex and left the downpipe as standard (MY93 WRX)
However I took it to be MOTed and the limit of CO is 0.3%vol and my car tested at a cool 0.9!!!! I asked him to retest and it came in at 0.6 but still nowhere close. Nolw with a bit of sweet talking and the right details put into the machine I have my MOT, but was wondering if this was normal or whatother peoples experiences were
cheers Alistair
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Heres my figures
Fast Idle Test @ 2746rpm
CO Level = 0.15%
HC Level = 13ppm
Lambda = 1.00
Natural Idle Test @ 779rpm
CO Level = .05%
Fast Idle Test @ 2746rpm
CO Level = 0.15%
HC Level = 13ppm
Lambda = 1.00
Natural Idle Test @ 779rpm
CO Level = .05%
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Ali, if you're going to test with a single cat, you need to get it well warm before it'll pass.
TBH though, this is one of the reasons why you might as well do the full decat. At least that way you know you're going to have to put 'em back on come MOT time...
TBH though, this is one of the reasons why you might as well do the full decat. At least that way you know you're going to have to put 'em back on come MOT time...
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#9
Your lambda control doesn´t work properly or the cat wasn´t warmed enough. If for example your lambda sensor or MAF sensor isn´t O.K. the lambda control isn´t able to keep lambda @ 1. You never get good values in that situation!
Mark.
Mark.
#11
My car passed with just one 9 year old cat in place.
However, it could be to do with the fact a WRX doesn't always have 2 cats, the one in the centre pipe is just a resonator so It would be worth checking what you have. Just under centre hanger and foremost hanger on back box, then undo downpipe to centre join to look inside with a torch. A cat is obvious if it's in there.
Otherwise suspect Lambda could well be it.
Edit:
I read it wrong, you still have the downpipe cat in place. Something is wrong, as most jap imports don't have a centre cat anyway (certainly stis and some wrxs) and they pass emissions. Might be worth checking coolant sensor, or just making sure the cat is up to temperature when tested, the downpipe cat isn't usually a problem to get lit.
Paul
[Edited by Pavlo - 7/21/2003 6:55:33 PM]
However, it could be to do with the fact a WRX doesn't always have 2 cats, the one in the centre pipe is just a resonator so It would be worth checking what you have. Just under centre hanger and foremost hanger on back box, then undo downpipe to centre join to look inside with a torch. A cat is obvious if it's in there.
Otherwise suspect Lambda could well be it.
Edit:
I read it wrong, you still have the downpipe cat in place. Something is wrong, as most jap imports don't have a centre cat anyway (certainly stis and some wrxs) and they pass emissions. Might be worth checking coolant sensor, or just making sure the cat is up to temperature when tested, the downpipe cat isn't usually a problem to get lit.
Paul
[Edited by Pavlo - 7/21/2003 6:55:33 PM]
#13
so providing the cat was warm enought I could have a faulty Lamda or Maf sensor?
what other symptomes should I be loking for? as I don't seam to have another problmes that I am aware of (touch wood)
can I test the signal from the sensors with a multimeter etc to conf they are ok
Alistair
what other symptomes should I be loking for? as I don't seam to have another problmes that I am aware of (touch wood)
can I test the signal from the sensors with a multimeter etc to conf they are ok
Alistair
#14
It could easily be a tired Lambda sensor Ali. I have got a single sports free flow cat in the centre pipe. It failed the MOT first time quite badly. I replaced the Lambda sensor and it went through very easily. On the 2889 RPM test, CO max 0.00% HC 6PPM Lambda 1.00
Natural idle CO max 0.01%. Its a MY94 STI. Its also worth checking that there are no exhaust leaks anywhere, that will kill the pass as well.
Good luck anyway.
Les
[Edited by Leslie - 7/23/2003 4:55:28 PM]
Natural idle CO max 0.01%. Its a MY94 STI. Its also worth checking that there are no exhaust leaks anywhere, that will kill the pass as well.
Good luck anyway.
Les
[Edited by Leslie - 7/23/2003 4:55:28 PM]
#15
check the MOT emission result to see what the lambda was for the test. If it's much under 1.0 it suggests the lambda sensor is to fault, as the ECU will generally try and correct the AFR on idle.
Paul
Paul
#16
Was the MOT place using the 0.3%vol limit setting from a MY93 UK car?
If so then even with a cat an import WRX wont pass that, as they are mapped for Japan and the emission's can be much higher.
Most MOT places dont know have the figures for the import cars - so make sure it was tested against the correct figures before you start replacing stuff.
Cheers
S with a cat free MY 94 WRX
If so then even with a cat an import WRX wont pass that, as they are mapped for Japan and the emission's can be much higher.
Most MOT places dont know have the figures for the import cars - so make sure it was tested against the correct figures before you start replacing stuff.
Cheers
S with a cat free MY 94 WRX
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