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Old 23 July 2003, 04:35 PM
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Which type of scooby (WRX, Type R , uk turbo, RA and STI) has the shortest gear ratios? I realise this may well vary depending on year etc but as a generalisation.

[Edited by TurboStu-esday - 7/23/2003 4:52:21 PM]
Old 23 July 2003, 04:37 PM
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Dont matter which ones got which, they're all quicker than rover turbo badness.
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Old 23 July 2003, 04:41 PM
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Sorry m8, couldnt resist.

I think type-r has the shortest ratios !

John felstead would prob know, or try the iwoc site @
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Old 23 July 2003, 04:44 PM
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disagree a uk is not quicker than a rover turbo necesarily (sp). especially as there is a 420bhp maestro (using a rover engine) knocking about!
Old 23 July 2003, 04:52 PM
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anyone?
Old 23 July 2003, 04:58 PM
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Classic Type R/RA's should have the shortest overall gearing, circa 18.5mph/1000rpm in top.

UK spec car is positively lazy in comparison at 24.9/1000. In fact, fourth in a UK car is fractionally longer than 5th in an RA...
Old 23 July 2003, 05:06 PM
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MY MY00 Type RA is 19.7mph/1000rpm in 5th.

103mph @ 7,600rpm in 4th gear (according to my RR dyno graph)

The earlier RA were really short and could just about reach 125 before hitting the redline in 5th.
Old 23 July 2003, 06:05 PM
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so are type r's / ra's the same gear ratio's? sorry if im being a bit thick
Old 23 July 2003, 06:26 PM
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chrisp does your car hit 60 in second?
Old 24 July 2003, 09:28 AM
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forgiven for being thick, u are blonde !!
Old 24 July 2003, 09:37 AM
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Old 24 July 2003, 09:47 AM
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Old 24 July 2003, 09:58 AM
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Ok ok, Mulbino dont say I never give u anything...

Click the link n scroll down to find all the scooby gear ratios you've ever wanted Click here
Old 24 July 2003, 10:30 AM
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Just found this, with a 7,500rpm redline

1st gear 5MPH/1000rpm Top Speed 37.5MPH
2nd gear 7.75MPH/1000rpm Top Speed 58MPH
3rd gear 10.25MPH/1000rpm Top Speed 77MPH
4th gear 13.75MPH/1000rpm Top Speed 103MPH
5th gear 19.75MPH/1000rpm Top Speed 148MPH
Old 24 July 2003, 10:38 AM
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Thats great chrisp just the kind of info i was after is that for your car?
Old 24 July 2003, 10:45 AM
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Stu,
The RA/Type R are Jap Imports only, they have their pitfalls over a uk car (the biggest being insurance and the need for a higher octane fuel, ie sul and octane booster).
The good side is that they are quicker though the gears, they unfortunately dont come with ABS though, so can be a handful in the wet if you like ABS.
The older type RA's are a pretty stripped out car, some wont have a/c or electric windows (these were factory options) and are pretty loud inside, there are some special editions though (like the one Chrisp has and there is an STi version of the type RA (of which there are a few limited editions) and the type R was mainly an STi with a very limited edition for the standard wrx.
Please note that the type RA are usually 4 doors (there is also a limited edition 2 door but ive never seen one) where as the type R is a 2 door car.
One last point is that these cars for 99% of the insurance co's will require a tracking system and you should be over the age of 25 (30 in most cases) before they will insure you on one.

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Thats for an STi5 Type RA ratios but my MY00 RA ratios seem to be very similar, had to adapt the top speeds though as my car redliens at 7,500 where as teh STI its 8,000rpm so mine has a slightly lower top speed in each gear but the mph/rpm is the same.

I think those figures were got from reading speeds off the clocks (not by me) so maybe slightly out but not by much. As I posted earlier my RR showed 103mph @ 7,600rpm (which is close to the figure there) and I know my car is geared at 19.7mph/1000rpm in 5th.

So yes then seem pretty close to my car but there is always clock inaccuracies.
Old 24 July 2003, 10:48 AM
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Mine is a non-STi Type RA so it has ABS but no DCCD and no water injection
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I own a version 2 STI RA, my car redlines at 8000rpm and the final drive is about 17mph per 1000rpm. 100mph is just over 6000 rpm which is very hard work!!!

I do have 17" wheels with 215/40 tyres so this might upset the speedo reading a bit!

I was under the impression that the type R/RA gearbox was slightly stronger than a standard wrx box...could be wrong though!!

Also my car will not hit 60 in 2nd gear!

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Old 24 July 2003, 11:41 AM
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So for these cars that dont hit 60 in second the 0-60 time includes a change to third! and yet they still manage it in what mid 5's to mid 4's? That must make the pull through the gears amazing! A mate of mine has a highly modified STI V5 and that will hit 60 in second and still feels so strong! I cant wait to try a type R!!
Old 24 July 2003, 12:10 PM
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My STI 5 Type R will hit 60 in second and redlines in 5th gear at about 150 mph (160ish on speedo).

Was time in standard form using GPS timing gear at 4.56s to 60.


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Old 24 July 2003, 12:24 PM
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The STi 5 R/RA will just hit 60 in second because of the 8000 redline.

7.75mph/1000 x 8(000) = 62mph

The rev limiter on mine (according to a fellow scoobynetter with the same car) is 8250 so yes I could hit 60 in second but would need to do 7750rpm (250rpm into the red zone)
Old 24 July 2003, 12:35 PM
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Just to make sure nobody gets put off getting a Type R/A from the last point in Tony Burn's post, I am 23 years old and I found my STI5 TypeR pretty easy to insure (settled for £1800 FC)....although as he said, it does require a tracker (and a cat1 alarm)
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