Tiggs

bearing in mind all the fuss about power/weight on a MY01 whhat have people done with theirs- filters, exhausts, etc

or is everyone waiting for ppp (like me!)

tiggs

also anyone upgraded their MY01 suspension and if so whats the difference? worth the money?

DarrenC

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DarrenC

Tiggs,

Looks like everyone is in the same boat!

I own a UK MY01 WRX and don't have a clue as what to modify. I can't even decide on what exhaust to go for.

Have you changed anything, and if so, what do you think?

Cheers
Darren

Dave T-S

tiggs

Just px'd our two MY00's for two MY01's last Saturday (red mica and blue/black mica), they pay their first visit to Scoobysport this Saturday - on shopping list for both:

Brembo/AP brakes
Leda suspension
18" Speedlines (mine), 18" P1 alloys (Carolyn's) (both gold )plus S03's
Full SS decat exhaust/ITG filter
PIAA drive lamps (off our MY00's)
Morette's
Scoobysport rear wing
PPP - when available.....

So, will let you know.....

RB5SCOTT

Money no object then Dave?

Jza

Same boat for me. Dealers still not sure when the PPP will be actually available to fit - cant give me a date.

Cant decide on exhaust either - but as im waiting for PPP i have no choice - i'll use the Prodrive one then i reckon a downpipe from Pete Croney and an ITC filter should about do it.

Dave T-S.

Ive read your spec on several posts. Very Nice (*2!) but are you aware that Prodrive want a standard car to work on (Full SS decat exhaust/ITG filter and Prodrive will send it back un fitted). Why would you want both systems? You cant have two at the same time!!!

Is it a wish list or are you getting it all done (circal £6000 *2 worth!!)?

Lend us a tenner.........

Jza

Tiggs

darren,
not done much so far other than coded the sills, wheels painted in P1 colour (P1 wheels that is, i've not got sonic blue alloys!), quick shift and a couple of bits of bodykit and decent stereo.

as im waiting for ppp i assume im stuck till thats done as they want the car standard (true?)
once thats done im open to suggestion, i was only thinking of power mods so a change to the suspension would need to be real good foe me to part with £1000+

tiggs

(not getting new lights though, think they all look as iffy as each other!)

Dave T-S

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by RB5SCOTT:
<B>Money no object then Dave? [/quote]

Scott - chucked it all on the low rate finance that came with the cars - you only live once.....

Dave T-S

jza

I prefer the SS exhaust to the Prodrive one - also can't live without the sound of a SS backbox until August (ish) . Once they get around to releasing the PPP's we shall have them fitted but flog the Prodrive backboxes. It'll be dealer fit by then on aftermarket fit (probably).

It's all being done, not a wish list. Booked into Scoobysport this Sat for exhausts/ITG/wheels & tyres/Morettes then probably the following week for brakes/suspension/wings.

Cost - ah, that would be telling......

RB5SCOTT

Dave

I'm getting a PPP UK300 in about 6 weeks time and will be getting the SS DP straight away. As the PPP comes with centre and backbox i was'nt going to change them. Does the SS system sound that much better/and perform better to justify the extra money.

Scott

BTW, I reckon about £6000 on each car with those mods.

BTW again, my uk300 will defiantly need some suspension mods

Tiggs

dave, as above- are you sure the ss box will sound much better?

tiggs

Dave T-S

Scott/Tiggs
I thought the '01 PPP only came with a backbox, not centre as well - I don't see Prodrive in the business of removing cats - so you will still be stuck with one.

IMHO the SS backbox is louder, sounds better, and probably gives a bit more power/torque (from experience of them on our MY00's).

Price - you'll have to add them up yourself.... - wasn't that cheap though, even with a discount

Chins

Dave

I think you will find they do remove the Centre Cat on the PPP.

The PPP car I drove had the WR backbox rather than the PPP one. Car still seemed quiet inside, but open the window and you got the full effects , so cant comment on SS vs Prodrive.

It will be interesting to see if you can fit a downpipe to a car with PPP. Pete Croney has said he not sure it will work. The PPP for the MY01 looks like it might be pushing the cars limit -stand to be wrong. For me after having a downpipe on my old RB5 and STI V, it could be the final ingredient.

Jonathan

Tiggs

annyone heared a 01 ppp and a ss box- which is best, based on the old car the ss seems to get the vote but ive heared good things about the noise from the new ppp.

also, anyone know for sure about the cats? and if a dp will work?

spoke to IM today, they reckon on 4-6 wks before the wrx can get ppp'd and it will be a dealer fit (they said)

tiggs

Dave T-S

Thanks for your comments guys, i'm off to do some research........

Chins

Tiggs

They DO remove the centre cat

No one has really tried a DP and PPP together properly. Pete is waiting to try, and some comments from other sources are dubious about it working.

Jonathan

Tiggs

learning as i go here! if prodrive remove the cat and their back box sounds good then it seems that sould be it- job done!

unless i want a louder exhaust or wait and see about down pipes.

this sum it up right or have i missed something?

tiggs

My bike was much simpler- bolt on an exhaust and throw away the airfilter!!

Dave T-S

Research done - you are right - WRX PPP DOES remove rear cat......

Dave T-S

Right, having pulled the exhausts off our WRX's at Scoobysport yesterday/discussed it with Mike Wood @ Prodrive:

There are three cats on the MY01. The first is a little one in the manifold upstream of the turbo. The second one is in the downpipe. The third is in the centre pipe (which is now in two parts).

The PPP takes out the rearmost cat plus replaces the back box.

Pete's SS system (that we have now got) is from the turbo back so removes cats two and three.

Sorted!

Tiggs

dave,

am i right in thinking the exhaust is in 3 bits, dp, mid section and bb?

if so when you get ppp i assume you will use the scooby sport back box (petes does sound good!) but what about the rest? i gather the dp is still untested with ppp and the mid section???

tiggs

Dave T-S

Tiggs
Both original and Pete's new MY01 system are in four parts - d/p, two piece mid section, of which the front part has the second cat in, and b/box.

When the PPP is finally available I (and Pete) are confident that the development work will be done to enable the PPP ECU to work with a full SS system.

Prodrive will not accept a car with anything but an original exhaust system (and if it goes dealer fit they will be instructed to do the same) - but there are ways around this (now where did I store that original exhaust system?)

(Mike, if you read this, please don't read it )

Tiggs

pity p/drive wont just sell you the ecu then!!

tiggs

Dave T-S

If only.........

Hyperflow

So far I have an MRT 3in exhaust, MRT TMIC (these have just been released and come with upgrade silicon y-piece), The car made 115kw at the wheels with these mods, standard is about 90kw. Yesterday I installed a VF23 turbo and wound the boost up to 18psi...now its a different car.....will put car back on the dyno tomorrow and post the power output here...im guessing about 150-160kw at the wheels..


Kevin, Hyperflow, Australia.

MikeWood

That's exactly why we won't sell the ECU on its' own.

Our ECU has been set up to use the parts that we fit in the Performance Package.

Changing the downpipe will inevitably mean that the ECU will need recalibrating or you will be seeing too much boost. The engine will not cope with any more boost as it will not be able to retard the ignition any more if it senses knock. You will more than likely get unconrolled detonation which is not good.

I will state this now so there is no misunderstanding in the future.

OUR PERFORMANCE PACKAGE HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED TO RUN WITHOUT THE ORIGINAL CATALYST. IF YOU CHOOSE TO REMOVE IT YOU ARE FIRSTLY INVALIDATING YOUR WARRANTY AND SECONDLY LEAVING YOURSELF IN GRAVE DANGER OF DAMAGING YOUR ENGINE.

Please be careful as I would hate for someone to find out in a very expensive manner.

It may be that in the future we are able to test other exhaust options but we already know from the testing we have already undertaken that a different ECU map is needed if the catalyst is removed.

Mike

Tiggs

Mike,

i assume that if i had an aftermarket back box that i was happy with then putting that back on the ppp'd car is not quite so bad???

tiggs

DT

Given Mike's comments. Would it not be better to go full SS and get Powerstation or similar to add a unichip and remap the ECU to suit the mods & what you want from it.

This might provide a greater overall output at a lesser cost? Albiet with no warranty Ideas/experience anyone?? .

Dave T-S

Mike
I think that makes your position clear, thanks......(although I was already).

If mine wasn't clear, if I fit a PPP and it will only work safely with the Prodrive exhaust setup, then that's what I will use.