Bottom end rebuild or engine upgrade? HELP NEEDED!!
#1
Bottom end rebuild or engine upgrade? HELP NEEDED!!
Right, where to begin.....I currently have a money pit of a JDM bugeye WRX. I've just spent a fortune on it over the last month, with a blown td04 being replaced with a VF35....
Having finally got the dam thing back from the garage, I then tried to nurse the car about 50 miles home, to where the following week it was booked in to be remapped. Unfortunately I got nowhere near home, after a gradual knocking got louder I pulled off the road to take a look. The oil levels were fine, not being mechanically minded I decided to abondon the car for the night. On return to the car the following morning with a mechanic he as told me my 'bottom end has gone'. Is that related to replacing the turbo????
Firstly, what the hell does that mean, and secondly what is my best route to getting this repaired. Both financially and in modifying terms!! Do I get the bottom end rebuilt or go for a conversion?
Hopefully there's some people on here from the trade that can point me in the right direction and give some ball park figures?
Starting to pull my hair out, even considered getting rid of the dam thing and finish my 5 year love affair with several Impreza's. Seriously though, where do you draw the line and let your head rule your heart for a change??? Can't afford to keep throwing money at it all the time....
HELP..........
Having finally got the dam thing back from the garage, I then tried to nurse the car about 50 miles home, to where the following week it was booked in to be remapped. Unfortunately I got nowhere near home, after a gradual knocking got louder I pulled off the road to take a look. The oil levels were fine, not being mechanically minded I decided to abondon the car for the night. On return to the car the following morning with a mechanic he as told me my 'bottom end has gone'. Is that related to replacing the turbo????
Firstly, what the hell does that mean, and secondly what is my best route to getting this repaired. Both financially and in modifying terms!! Do I get the bottom end rebuilt or go for a conversion?
Hopefully there's some people on here from the trade that can point me in the right direction and give some ball park figures?
Starting to pull my hair out, even considered getting rid of the dam thing and finish my 5 year love affair with several Impreza's. Seriously though, where do you draw the line and let your head rule your heart for a change??? Can't afford to keep throwing money at it all the time....
HELP..........
Last edited by gaz_wrx; 06 July 2007 at 12:30 PM. Reason: Spelling
#2
Help is simply at hand.
Call David at Welcome to the API website and he will advise you accordingly.
no bullsh!t, honest answers and a professional approach. He can even get the car off you etc!
Since in business he has done about 1100 Impreza engines, so has seen it all.
He also will not take advantage of your mechanical knowledge.
The turbo has nothing to do with the 'bottom end gone' (if indeed it has).
Graham
Tell David '911' sent you for a chat.
An API customer.
Call David at Welcome to the API website and he will advise you accordingly.
no bullsh!t, honest answers and a professional approach. He can even get the car off you etc!
Since in business he has done about 1100 Impreza engines, so has seen it all.
He also will not take advantage of your mechanical knowledge.
The turbo has nothing to do with the 'bottom end gone' (if indeed it has).
Graham
Tell David '911' sent you for a chat.
An API customer.
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From: @Junc 12, M40 Warwicksh; 01926 614522 CV33 9PL -Use 9GX for Satnav. South Mids Alcatek ECu dealer
I would think it likely, that by fitting the VF35 and not getting it remapped immediately you have contributed to the failure. The boost control maps [ amongst other things ] are completely dissimilar between those 2 turbo set ups and I am convinced that is the primary cause of the failure. Especially if the car has not been showing any signs of distress with current level mods up to that point.
Call me for a chat - with no obligation and l'll try to point you in the right direction.
Good Luck - no matter what, David APi
Call me for a chat - with no obligation and l'll try to point you in the right direction.
Good Luck - no matter what, David APi
#7
Hopefully it's not your big end bearing that's gone. If it is, you could be looking at 3K all in for a rebuild, which will be necessary if it is.
I own an STi Type-R. Unfortunately these cars are the worst for needing rebuilds. Due to the map being set for Japanese fuel and the quick gear ratios. However this can also apply to base WRX's also.
The rule of thum is that any performance modification made to these flat four engines must be adjusted accordingly via a map. Otherwise the fueling will be out. This is crucial to these particular engines. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise unless you wish to run the risk of a rebuild! The only thing I reckon you could get away with is a rear box, since hardly any performance is gained.
When I purchased my Type-R I didn't realise just how many can suffer from rebuilds, both WRX and STi engines, any sometimes with no performance increase modifications.
Dave at API is deffinately the chap to speak to. I'm taking my Impreza there for a map since the miles are at 56K and it could well let go now despite no mods being made.
The ECUTECH TECH 3 apparantley is the product to use for my car. If you make any mods, easily mapped once more.
Mapping is piece of mind. Ignore it at your peril.
I own an STi Type-R. Unfortunately these cars are the worst for needing rebuilds. Due to the map being set for Japanese fuel and the quick gear ratios. However this can also apply to base WRX's also.
The rule of thum is that any performance modification made to these flat four engines must be adjusted accordingly via a map. Otherwise the fueling will be out. This is crucial to these particular engines. Ignore anyone who tells you otherwise unless you wish to run the risk of a rebuild! The only thing I reckon you could get away with is a rear box, since hardly any performance is gained.
When I purchased my Type-R I didn't realise just how many can suffer from rebuilds, both WRX and STi engines, any sometimes with no performance increase modifications.
Dave at API is deffinately the chap to speak to. I'm taking my Impreza there for a map since the miles are at 56K and it could well let go now despite no mods being made.
The ECUTECH TECH 3 apparantley is the product to use for my car. If you make any mods, easily mapped once more.
Mapping is piece of mind. Ignore it at your peril.
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From: @Junc 12, M40 Warwicksh; 01926 614522 CV33 9PL -Use 9GX for Satnav. South Mids Alcatek ECu dealer
l'll happily point you in the right direction and if we can help you, then I'd be happy to do so.
David APi
#13
l'll look forward to meeting you. Just a pointer it is a VERY busy day here tomorrow. l'll be away getting an MOT done until 10.00 After that it is bacon rolls for everyone at about 10.30 - 10.45 So arrive then and we'll make sure that you get one.
l'll happily point you in the right direction and if we can help you, then I'd be happy to do so.
David APi
l'll happily point you in the right direction and if we can help you, then I'd be happy to do so.
David APi
David,
Had a few drowning my sorrows fri night, didnt manage to surface till sun morning with the mother of all hangovers.....
Still want to progress this mind, have you got the facilities to pick my motor up if we go ahead with the the rebuild?
Cheers
Gareth
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From: @Junc 12, M40 Warwicksh; 01926 614522 CV33 9PL -Use 9GX for Satnav. South Mids Alcatek ECu dealer
Hee Hee, hope your head hurts - no-one should have that much pleasure
We have s full recovery service which we subsidise so that you don't pay the daft sort of £1.00 per mile either direction that proper recovery companies get away with.
Proper collection trailer with full insurance for ALL risks, from the moment we accept the car into our care.
David APi
We have s full recovery service which we subsidise so that you don't pay the daft sort of £1.00 per mile either direction that proper recovery companies get away with.
Proper collection trailer with full insurance for ALL risks, from the moment we accept the car into our care.
David APi
#15
sorry to hear about your car mate i just blew all my money on my first scoob and it melted a piston after 3 months i have been down every avenue to repair it but by farthe best advise i was given was by david at api top bloke needless to say mine is going to api in the next couple of weeks for a complete rebuild hope you manage to sort it
#16
l'll look forward to meeting you. Just a pointer it is a VERY busy day here tomorrow. l'll be away getting an MOT done until 10.00 After that it is bacon rolls for everyone at about 10.30 - 10.45 So arrive then and we'll make sure that you get one.
l'll happily point you in the right direction and if we can help you, then I'd be happy to do so.
David APi
l'll happily point you in the right direction and if we can help you, then I'd be happy to do so.
David APi
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From: @Junc 12, M40 Warwicksh; 01926 614522 CV33 9PL -Use 9GX for Satnav. South Mids Alcatek ECu dealer
Call me on 01926 614333 and l'll talk you through rebuild options.
David APi
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Our new rolling road is in and ready to roll.
Agents for:
Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Hayward & Scott exhausts
Carbonetics clutches
BC suspension
Samco hose kits
Hybrid front mount intercooler kits
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Performance friction products
And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch
Welcome to the API website
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#18
Good luck with the problem/build. Definate for having Api look at it
#19
I agree £1k is too cheap ...... Unless there using a trained monkey to do the work ..... The other thing to consider is what is there track record with re-building Impreza's? Always better to use someone with a proven track record IMO to make sure the job is done good once will save money in the long run.....
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