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#7
I have had an ITG panel in my car (MY00) for the last 20,000 miles, and everythings fine. Not sure whether or not it has actually increased the throttle response, etc... but still no complaints.
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#10
I ran ITG in mine with no problems...other than some gunge in one corner of the airbox, which I clean out from time to time.
Now running MRT Rally grp N filter and that seems fine too. Same gunge though.
Now running MRT Rally grp N filter and that seems fine too. Same gunge though.
#12
i don't think it will...
i heard that direct filter could cause problems
i equipped mine with K&N panel and it's ok
i'm not sure about how long can i keep it without being clean up...
i would like it to be clean up every 10000km...is it too often?
and any ideas about how long could it last at all?
ciao
i heard that direct filter could cause problems
i equipped mine with K&N panel and it's ok
i'm not sure about how long can i keep it without being clean up...
i would like it to be clean up every 10000km...is it too often?
and any ideas about how long could it last at all?
ciao
#13
I've just taken out an ITG filter and the bottom of the air box was liberally smothered in green goo. I replaced it with a standard Subaru paper unit (£21 from the dealer ) and there it a noticable reduction in engine responsiveness.
#14
I have read not to use air filters that use oil soaked foam, such as Ramair & ITG. The oil can get sucked from the filter (proven from other posts within this thread) and burn out the hot-wire airflow meter. This then leads to it sending wrong info to the ECU and can lead to engine failure.
This information was taken from Japanese Performance, Issue 1, Nov / Dec 99, and was based on Dave Power of Power Engineerings comments.
He recommends K&N.
Cheers
Garry
This information was taken from Japanese Performance, Issue 1, Nov / Dec 99, and was based on Dave Power of Power Engineerings comments.
He recommends K&N.
Cheers
Garry
#16
Hi I have been running the ITG for acouple of months now just taken it out to put standard one back in. Just so my local dealer does not ask any questions when I have it serviced. No mess in the airbox at all clean as a whistle.
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I have read not to use air filters that use oil soaked foam, such as Ramair & ITG. The oil can get sucked from the filter (proven from other posts within this thread)and burn out the hot-wire airflow meter. This then leads to it sending wrong info to the ECU and can lead to engine failure.
This information was taken from Japanese Performance, Issue 1, Nov / Dec 99, and was based on Dave Power of Power Engineerings comments.
#18
We seem to have 2 discussions going on here, thought I'd bring them together.
ITG air Filter
So Pete do you still recomend the ITG panel over a cone. I've seen some +ve comments on here for the induction kits do you have any -ve's. Would search but...........
Cheers,
boultsy.
[Edited by boultsy - 1/7/2002 11:54:02 AM]
ITG air Filter
So Pete do you still recomend the ITG panel over a cone. I've seen some +ve comments on here for the induction kits do you have any -ve's. Would search but...........
Cheers,
boultsy.
[Edited by boultsy - 1/7/2002 11:54:02 AM]
#19
when i removed my ITG i found greeny blue liquid in the bottom of my air box, i replaced it with a K and N panel filter, but i respect pete croneys coments above, it was only on the air box side
#21
FWIW
I recently replaced an ITG filter (much green goo in the bottom of the air box) with a K&N induction kit + STi bell mouth. A noticable reduction in bottom end torque resulted (though the top end felt a bit livelier). I put the air box back in with a Subaru OEM paper filter and noticed a reluctance to rev as freely throughout the rev range.
I'll put the ITG back in this weekend until I can get a Unichip to sort the fuelling for the induction kit. However, the ITG has been sitting on a sheet of card board on my work bench for the last week or so and some oil has oozed out in that time...
Tom
I recently replaced an ITG filter (much green goo in the bottom of the air box) with a K&N induction kit + STi bell mouth. A noticable reduction in bottom end torque resulted (though the top end felt a bit livelier). I put the air box back in with a Subaru OEM paper filter and noticed a reluctance to rev as freely throughout the rev range.
I'll put the ITG back in this weekend until I can get a Unichip to sort the fuelling for the induction kit. However, the ITG has been sitting on a sheet of card board on my work bench for the last week or so and some oil has oozed out in that time...
Tom
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boultsy,
An induction kit is better for top end breathing (read Power) so the gains will be more noticable if you drive your car in this range the most - particularly if you have other mods increasing power and "throughput".
The only real downside is you often loose a small amount of torque at the bottom end so you have to decide which you want (and some induction kits are arguably more likely to be a factor in MAF contamination).
A good panel filter (such as an ITG) seems to be a good compromise between the two.
Matt
An induction kit is better for top end breathing (read Power) so the gains will be more noticable if you drive your car in this range the most - particularly if you have other mods increasing power and "throughput".
The only real downside is you often loose a small amount of torque at the bottom end so you have to decide which you want (and some induction kits are arguably more likely to be a factor in MAF contamination).
A good panel filter (such as an ITG) seems to be a good compromise between the two.
Matt
#23
I replaced my ITG at every service, which is every 3 months due to the mileage I do. I still had some gue (not excessive) in the bottom corner of the airbox (where is slopes away too). I have the same amount of gue from the MrtRally grp N filter, although this filter does have a much sturdier frame and seems less likely to be squeezed by the airbox lid. No bad side-effects from either filter and both seem to have a positive effect on performance. I'm coming down on the side of the grp N filter, because of its harder frame and better fit to the airbox.
I check the airbox and clean the "small" amount of gue out every couple of weeks, primarily because I have discovered leaves in there before!!!
I check the airbox and clean the "small" amount of gue out every couple of weeks, primarily because I have discovered leaves in there before!!!
#25
Cheers matt, Yeh as you say the ITG panel type does look to be a good compromise and from Tom's comments it appears to be significantly better than the OEM.
Any idea what the life expectancy of such a filter would be 6mnths a year? Could this be why some people are experiencing green goo, because they are not replacing the filter frequently enough. Just a thought.
Edited to say Cor look at the time.
[Edited by boultsy - 1/8/2002 12:03:24 AM]
Any idea what the life expectancy of such a filter would be 6mnths a year? Could this be why some people are experiencing green goo, because they are not replacing the filter frequently enough. Just a thought.
Edited to say Cor look at the time.
[Edited by boultsy - 1/8/2002 12:03:24 AM]
#26
I must admit that the ITG came with my car and so I have no idea how old it is.
It is begining to look that excessive green goo could be a product of an old filter and the fact that the ITG comes with a very filmsy rubber/plastic frame which is easily squished (and quite difficult to fit compared to the OEM item).
haynesaj, where did you get your group N filter and how much was it?
Tom
[Edited by tklimes - 1/8/2002 7:27:30 AM]
It is begining to look that excessive green goo could be a product of an old filter and the fact that the ITG comes with a very filmsy rubber/plastic frame which is easily squished (and quite difficult to fit compared to the OEM item).
haynesaj, where did you get your group N filter and how much was it?
Tom
[Edited by tklimes - 1/8/2002 7:27:30 AM]
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