AWD DRIFTING
#1
AWD DRIFTING
Is AWD drifting the hardest? I've had a little side ways action in my 02 WRX but it tends to snap back into place pretty quickly.
Is this purely technique or because it's not the best car / set-up?
Is this purely technique or because it's not the best car / set-up?
#5
Been teaching myself how to do this in a big car par and today I really did scare myself. Pulled out of a junction going slowly in 1st then nailed it and turned the wheel a notch to tickle the back and it fishtailed all the way up the road till 3rd....was fun tho lol
#7
They do not seem to respond well to opposite lock.like you said it just snaps back real quick due to the drive going to front wheels.
my last car was a bmw and you had to stick full opposite lock on to straighten it.
the scoob responds better to getting the back end to go then keeping the steering wheel in the straight position until the back end swings to far out then you can give a small amount of opposite lock to straighten it.
but you cannot let the throttle off when you are doing this or 1 of 2 things will happen.
a)the back end will be too far round and you will end up facing the other way
b)The car will snap back and send you into a drift the opposite way which is not what you want when you are trying to straighten it out because usually it means you are about to hit something.
The impreza is not a tight circle drift car it tends to understeer unless you use the handbrake to convince the back end to go. it is more a loose gravel permanent slide type car hense the rally prowess.
as a rear wheel drive car owner before the scoob i struggle to get a good drift going continuously and the road is no place to practise.
my last car was a bmw and you had to stick full opposite lock on to straighten it.
the scoob responds better to getting the back end to go then keeping the steering wheel in the straight position until the back end swings to far out then you can give a small amount of opposite lock to straighten it.
but you cannot let the throttle off when you are doing this or 1 of 2 things will happen.
a)the back end will be too far round and you will end up facing the other way
b)The car will snap back and send you into a drift the opposite way which is not what you want when you are trying to straighten it out because usually it means you are about to hit something.
The impreza is not a tight circle drift car it tends to understeer unless you use the handbrake to convince the back end to go. it is more a loose gravel permanent slide type car hense the rally prowess.
as a rear wheel drive car owner before the scoob i struggle to get a good drift going continuously and the road is no place to practise.
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#9
was booting my wrx round a bend to work one morning half asleep on a duel carigeway after owning the car a few months thinking this car will never let go lol big mistake it let go i let off big mistake i ended up spining around like i was on ride at alton towers i missed every car near me and both the walls at ither side of me i did not need coffee that morning and named the car lucky lol
#11
#12
I love the sideways action (so does my bird), its easy with lots of horses. I dont get the snap back but think thats the suretrac diffs. My old 2L wrx diffs with 350 bhp used to go from lock to lock up the road - a bit harsh, madness really! Almost knocked a guy off a push bike once
#13
YouTube - scooby fun
this is me this year in the rain on some grass the best way practice i have found
this is me this year in the rain on some grass the best way practice i have found
#14
after 3 yr's of trying these are my best results to date
YouTube - QUICK BLAST ON THE HAIRPINS AT BLYTON
YouTube - QUICK BLAST ON THE HAIRPINS AT BLYTON
Have the tarmacced the start bit at Blyton now then? The bit after the chicane used to be rough as ar$es and I got carried away doing lap after lap and my tyres overheated resulting in delaminating a 1" by 12" piece of my tread down the centre of the front passenger side tyre
#15
The scoob is a gripper, not a drifter. I use my WRX for sprinting and bought a 325 for drifting. They are both good at what they do, but sprinting the beemer and drifting the scoob wouldnt be much fun.
http://www.clubracer.co.uk/drifttest.wmv
http://www.clubracer.co.uk/scoob2.wmv
http://www.clubracer.co.uk/drifttest.wmv
http://www.clubracer.co.uk/scoob2.wmv
#16
I found that with MY02 wrx in standard tune it you culd get the tail out and then it would grip (but at the wrong time). Having tweaked it up abit it loves drifting out. YouTube - Bugeye at Elvington
#17
Very good clip of a high speed drift on the track here.
It seemed to me that he didnt give too much opposite lock and just kept the power down.
YouTube - scooby drifting
That was a type R with DCCD.
I assume the same technique works in a standard non DCCD classic?
(seeing as more power is running to the backs in an R and it also has a different diffs)
It seemed to me that he didnt give too much opposite lock and just kept the power down.
YouTube - scooby drifting
That was a type R with DCCD.
I assume the same technique works in a standard non DCCD classic?
(seeing as more power is running to the backs in an R and it also has a different diffs)
#18
how not 2 do it
Video of scooby - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Video of scooby - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Last edited by subaruross; 16 July 2007 at 12:59 PM. Reason: not working
#20
My understanding is - that you use mimimal opposite lock and keep the power down to get the fronts to pull you out of it -making sure the fronts are pointing in the right direction.
I have never drifted scoobs. I have had the back go through trail braking. On the brakes - back kicks out - you are then pointing in the right direction - balance the trottle for a half second - then put the power down sharpish and the fronts pull you out.
Anyone used to drifting scoobs care to comment
What about set up - what do you do to tyre pressures - suspension etc (if anything)
Steve
#21
YouTube - scooby fun
this is me this year in the rain on some grass the best way practice i have found
this is me this year in the rain on some grass the best way practice i have found
Cheers
Al.
(first post!)
#22
Guys guys guys, all you need is crap tyres IMO . I got caught out in the middle of nowhere when I drove over something that flattened both my left tyres. I ended up at a local garage getting a set of LINGLONG (lol) L688's fitted all round. It was all they had in a 17" my size. Tread pattern looked good but MY GOD were these bad tyres. They could just about hold it together in the dry and in the wet were like having ice skates stuck on, I kid you not.
I did my best to kill these quickly but the hard compound just would not die. In the 1.5 years they were stuck on I feel that I became a very accomplished drift driver in my own mind at least . Drifitng around big or small roundabouts in the dry was a breeze with a bit of beans and you drifted pretty well everywhere in the damp/wet.
I hated it at first but loved it once I tamed the beast and made it a point to drift at least once a day whenever possible. A big long sweeping, controlled 4wd wheel spinning drift is actually pretty rewarding .
Still glad I got rid of them though and got decent tyres again!
I did my best to kill these quickly but the hard compound just would not die. In the 1.5 years they were stuck on I feel that I became a very accomplished drift driver in my own mind at least . Drifitng around big or small roundabouts in the dry was a breeze with a bit of beans and you drifted pretty well everywhere in the damp/wet.
I hated it at first but loved it once I tamed the beast and made it a point to drift at least once a day whenever possible. A big long sweeping, controlled 4wd wheel spinning drift is actually pretty rewarding .
Still glad I got rid of them though and got decent tyres again!
#23
I had the same in my old MR2. Someone slashed the rear tyres and I could only afford nankangs. They were dire - but VERY good fun.
My Impreza has Kumos on it. So far I've had one baby-drift coming off a bumpy corner under full throttle, but they normally feel like they wouldn't let go for love nor money.
Anyone know if they're any good? The Impreza itself is so mental I don't know how much credit to give to the tyres..
My Impreza has Kumos on it. So far I've had one baby-drift coming off a bumpy corner under full throttle, but they normally feel like they wouldn't let go for love nor money.
Anyone know if they're any good? The Impreza itself is so mental I don't know how much credit to give to the tyres..
#25
Not sure on the impreza as I haven't taken it on track yet but here is my 205 all wheel drifting (gets more interesting after 4mins 20s) by braking while turning:
YouTube - 205 on circuit du Luc
You must use the throttle to get out of the drift
YouTube - 205 on circuit du Luc
You must use the throttle to get out of the drift
Last edited by fpan; 09 August 2007 at 04:44 PM.
#26
the best drifting ive seen in a scoob was at the D1 at silverstone a couple of yrs ago. the guy must have been a rally driver.
came down the straight flat out into the corner gave the steering a twich and all four tyres were blowing plumbes of smoke on every corner, no snapping back just a perfect big smooth drift on every bend. was in a blue blob sti.
came down the straight flat out into the corner gave the steering a twich and all four tyres were blowing plumbes of smoke on every corner, no snapping back just a perfect big smooth drift on every bend. was in a blue blob sti.
#27
YouTube - scooby fun
this is me this year in the rain on some grass the best way practice i have found
this is me this year in the rain on some grass the best way practice i have found
#29
this is me the first night i tried to drift round a hairpin lol. ruined a clutch since then but ive mastered it now
YouTube - me drifting my impreza
YouTube - me drifting my impreza
#30
Guys guys guys, all you need is crap tyres IMO . I got caught out in the middle of nowhere when I drove over something that flattened both my left tyres. I ended up at a local garage getting a set of LINGLONG (lol) L688's fitted all round. It was all they had in a 17" my size. Tread pattern looked good but MY GOD were these bad tyres. They could just about hold it together in the dry and in the wet were like having ice skates stuck on, I kid you not.
I did my best to kill these quickly but the hard compound just would not die. In the 1.5 years they were stuck on I feel that I became a very accomplished drift driver in my own mind at least . Drifitng around big or small roundabouts in the dry was a breeze with a bit of beans and you drifted pretty well everywhere in the damp/wet.
I hated it at first but loved it once I tamed the beast and made it a point to drift at least once a day whenever possible. A big long sweeping, controlled 4wd wheel spinning drift is actually pretty rewarding .
Still glad I got rid of them though and got decent tyres again!
I did my best to kill these quickly but the hard compound just would not die. In the 1.5 years they were stuck on I feel that I became a very accomplished drift driver in my own mind at least . Drifitng around big or small roundabouts in the dry was a breeze with a bit of beans and you drifted pretty well everywhere in the damp/wet.
I hated it at first but loved it once I tamed the beast and made it a point to drift at least once a day whenever possible. A big long sweeping, controlled 4wd wheel spinning drift is actually pretty rewarding .
Still glad I got rid of them though and got decent tyres again!
Simon