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Old 29 July 2012, 05:12 PM
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Anyone fitted 4 pot calipers off a later model, on an early classic? Are they a straight swap?
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Hi
Yes they will fit straight on
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Brilliant thank you mate.
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Paul once you have got used to the 4 pots & when funds allow I can recommend Ian's big brake kit that uses the 4 pot caliper as a reasonably cheap upgrade. It takes it to the next level from just changing the 2 pots to 4 pots. Better pads & a bigger disc that sit under 17" wheels

http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=121
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Or, change to the STi Brembo setup , you will need to have minimum of 17" alloys though
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Good info boys thanks for that will keep it all in mind for the future.
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FWIW I have the Godspeed big brake upgrade and its very good.
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I have a P1 4 pot setup with DBA discs and DS2500 pads, should be removed from the car within the next week or so
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Is the p1 set up different from the normal 4 pot set up then?
Good 2 know shotgun cheers mate
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Originally Posted by Scoobysmeet
Is the p1 set up different from the normal 4 pot set up then?
Good 2 know shotgun cheers mate
No they are the same calipers
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Ill have a full set of discs, pads and calipers next month mate if thats any help
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Iv actually jus got some off of eBay cheers though mate
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Same as me. I just bought another set of pads, discs and subaru 4 pot calipers to refurb till i do my godspeed upgrade
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Out of interest how much did you pay for them?
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Originally Posted by FLAT ERIC
Paul once you have got used to the 4 pots & when funds allow I can recommend Ian's big brake kit that uses the 4 pot caliper as a reasonably cheap upgrade. It takes it to the next level from just changing the 2 pots to 4 pots. Better pads & a bigger disc that sit under 17" wheels

http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=121
I take it there's no chance of these fitting under oe 16's?
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
Out of interest how much did you pay for them?
I got calipers Godspeed discs and Kevlar pads £180 delivered, all used obviously
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I guess I better up my price then lol, I thought £100-120 but now shall ask for 150 posted
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So would P1 calipers be the same as STI 3 4pots????? Mine are shocking :O get major brake fade and with EBC yellow stuff pads, just wonder what to change to next????
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
Out of interest how much did you pay for them?
£75 delivered mate for calipers discs and mintex pads
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That sounds fairly cheap mate, I hope you threw away the Mintex pads though

@ Seb- I am unsure if there is a difference between the two tbh.
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That sounds fairly cheap mate, I hope you threw away the Mintex pads though

@ Seb- I am unsure if there is a difference between the two tbh.
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Originally Posted by Rescue Dude
I take it there's no chance of these fitting under oe 16's?
I am sure Ian will correct me if I am wrong but I don't think the 335mm discs will fit under 16" wheels.

These are some of my past set ups. As you can see there is not a lot of clearance by the caliper with the 335mm discs under 18" wheels. So 17's will be snugger still yet alone 16's.

OE disc & 4 pots under 18" PFF7 wheel. Loads of room


335mm disc & Brembo caliper under a 18" PFF7 wheel


335mm disc & Brembo caliper under a 18" Wolfrace wheel
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Iv got yellow stuff pads on my 2pots, I got told not to bother with any ebc pads by performance touch as they don't rate them. Obviously that's personal opinion. But my discs have gone blue from overheating, hence why I've brought some 4pots.
My next question is are the discs on 4 pots bigger than the discs on 2 pots?
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Originally Posted by scooby seb
So would P1 calipers be the same as STI 3 4pots????? Mine are shocking :O get major brake fade and with EBC yellow stuff pads, just wonder what to change to next????
Scott I think all the 4 pots were the same till they went over to the Brembos. OE P1 front disc was 280mm & the rears were 245mm.

I don't have any close up shots of my P1 wheels but have this which shows it looks like a normal 4 pot. HTH.

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Originally Posted by Scoobysmeet
My next question is are the discs on 4 pots bigger than the discs on 2 pots?
Pre 99 WRX had 270mm front & 230mm rear. Cars after that tended to be heavier so needed better brakes.

Changing to braided brake lines can improve feel as can fitting a pedal-box bracket to the bulkhead also better brake fluid will help if things are getting hot. So many things to do & so much to spend.
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Originally Posted by FLAT ERIC
Pre 99 WRX had 270mm front & 230mm rear. Cars after that tended to be heavier so needed better brakes.

Changing to braided brake lines can improve feel as can fitting a pedal-box bracket to the bulkhead also better brake fluid will help if things are getting hot. So many things to do & so much to spend.
Just to correct you on the disc size , on the early classics with the 2 pot front calipers , they had 277mm front discs , and for the 4 pot calipers they use a 294mm disc
Most of the classics use a 266mm rear disc , the early cars had solid discs , then they went to vented discs

Cheers Ian
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
That sounds fairly cheap mate, I hope you threw away the Mintex pads though

@ Seb- I am unsure if there is a difference between the two tbh.

I only bought them for the calipers as im doing the 335ml brake upgrade so thought might as well do it properly. Im going to get the calipers sprayed n laquered up so there looking really nice. When i do the brakes then ill be doing the rear calipers with the 2 pot rear conversion as well as braided lines and dot5.1 brake fluid. Should happen next month or two hopefully
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Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes
Just to correct you on the disc size , on the early classics with the 2 pot front calipers , they had 277mm front discs , and for the 4 pot calipers they use a 294mm disc
Most of the classics use a 266mm rear disc , the early cars had solid discs , then they went to vented discs

Cheers Ian
Cheers Ian. Much better from "the horses mouth" as they say.

I should have known not to trust a car mag for accurate info. It came from a buyers guide in EVO.
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Thank you for the info. The set up I have brought is from an '03. That would explain why I thought the discs looked bigger. Tbh they cant be any worse than what I have atm.
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Originally Posted by Bean1984
Same as me. I just bought another set of pads, discs and subaru 4 pot calipers to refurb till i do my godspeed upgrade
What condition are the pistons in? Are you fitting new seals as part of the refurb or just doing a clean & paint for now? Ian does a nice set of stainless pistons & a seal kit for the 4 pots which would make your 335mm upgrade last longer.

http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=150


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