Low boost pressure?
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Low boost pressure?
I have a MY00 UK classic. I've felt for sometime now that it's down on power, it started after the last time it was in for a service (main dealers) I mentioned that I had experienced it cutting out when on boost on odd occasions. I suggested the typical overboost/fuel cut scenario. Anyway they did something to cure it but when questioned I was told that the fuel cut level was too low and had been adjusted. This was news to me, as far as I understand it this is part of the ECU map and cannot be changed without the ECUTek software, not something main dealers have access to
After a while I decided that perhaps it was all in my mind, the car is still pretty rapid. However a few things of late now have me convinced there is a problem after all.
First off I fitted a boost gauge. I can only get it to peak at 0.7 bar, WOT from low revs in 4/5th. It is however a cheapo mechanical gauge and I'm told they're not that accurate.
Secondly it went on the rollers last weekend (PowerStation) and only made just over 199 bhp It is fairly standard: H&S backbox and de-cat centre, SAMCO turbo hose kit, and the AE802 replaced with an AE801 ECU. I was expecting something nearer to the quoted 215bhp standard figure.
I has had a new MAF recently probably due to paranoia, Knocklink is quiet.
So any ideas? Would a gunged up boost solenoid cause loss of boost? I know overboosting is usually a symptom of this. MAP sensor over reading? Leaking dumpvalve (OEM)? All the hoses are tight and shouldn't be leaking.
Or should I leave it to the experts? It's due a service and now out of warranty so probably going to leave it to my local specialist to look after. Hopefully they will have a better clue than the dealships
Cheers for any advice/help.
Graz
After a while I decided that perhaps it was all in my mind, the car is still pretty rapid. However a few things of late now have me convinced there is a problem after all.
First off I fitted a boost gauge. I can only get it to peak at 0.7 bar, WOT from low revs in 4/5th. It is however a cheapo mechanical gauge and I'm told they're not that accurate.
Secondly it went on the rollers last weekend (PowerStation) and only made just over 199 bhp It is fairly standard: H&S backbox and de-cat centre, SAMCO turbo hose kit, and the AE802 replaced with an AE801 ECU. I was expecting something nearer to the quoted 215bhp standard figure.
I has had a new MAF recently probably due to paranoia, Knocklink is quiet.
So any ideas? Would a gunged up boost solenoid cause loss of boost? I know overboosting is usually a symptom of this. MAP sensor over reading? Leaking dumpvalve (OEM)? All the hoses are tight and shouldn't be leaking.
Or should I leave it to the experts? It's due a service and now out of warranty so probably going to leave it to my local specialist to look after. Hopefully they will have a better clue than the dealships
Cheers for any advice/help.
Graz
Last edited by Graz; 01 June 2005 at 01:24 PM.
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Originally Posted by Graz
I have a MY00 UK classic. I've felt for sometime now that it's down on power, it started after the last time it was in for a service (main dealers) I mentioned that I had experienced it cutting out when on boost on odd occasions. I suggested the typical overboost/fuel cut scenario. Anyway they did something to cure it but when questioned I was told that the fuel cut level was too low and had been adjusted. This was news to me, as far as I understand it this is part of the ECU map and cannot be changed without the ECUTek software, not something main dealers have access to
After a while I decided that perhaps it was all in my mind, the car is still pretty rapid. However a few things of late now have me convinced there is a problem after all.
First off I fitted a boost gauge. I can only get it to peak at 0.7 bar, WOT from low revs in 4/5th. It is however a cheapo mechanical gauge and I'm told they're not that accurate.
Secondly it went on the rollers last weekend (PowerStation) and only made just over 199 bhp It is fairly standard: H&S backbox and de-cat centre, SAMCO turbo hose kit, and the AE802 replaced with an AE801 ECU. I was expecting something nearer to the quoted 215bhp standard figure.
I has had a new MAF recently probably due to paranoia, Knocklink is quiet.
So any ideas? Would a gunged up boost solenoid cause loss of boost? I know overboosting is usually a symptom of this. MAP sensor over reading? Leaking dumpvalve (OEM)? All the hoses are tight and shouldn't be leaking.
Or should I leave it to the experts? It's due a service and now out of warranty so probably going to leave it to my local specialist to look after. Hopefully they will have a better clue than the dealships
Cheers for any advice/help.
Graz
After a while I decided that perhaps it was all in my mind, the car is still pretty rapid. However a few things of late now have me convinced there is a problem after all.
First off I fitted a boost gauge. I can only get it to peak at 0.7 bar, WOT from low revs in 4/5th. It is however a cheapo mechanical gauge and I'm told they're not that accurate.
Secondly it went on the rollers last weekend (PowerStation) and only made just over 199 bhp It is fairly standard: H&S backbox and de-cat centre, SAMCO turbo hose kit, and the AE802 replaced with an AE801 ECU. I was expecting something nearer to the quoted 215bhp standard figure.
I has had a new MAF recently probably due to paranoia, Knocklink is quiet.
So any ideas? Would a gunged up boost solenoid cause loss of boost? I know overboosting is usually a symptom of this. MAP sensor over reading? Leaking dumpvalve (OEM)? All the hoses are tight and shouldn't be leaking.
Or should I leave it to the experts? It's due a service and now out of warranty so probably going to leave it to my local specialist to look after. Hopefully they will have a better clue than the dealships
Cheers for any advice/help.
Graz
If in doubt, take it to a specialist and have it looked over, chances are they'll find the prob quicker than the dealers!
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Originally Posted by Graz
It has just over 60k miles on it. Certainly hope the turbo isn't shagged, thought they were supposed to last a bit longer than that
at 60k it wouldn't be too unreasonable for a turbo to be past its best, depends how hard its been used I guess! Look on the bright side, if it has gone, it's a perfect excuse to get a bigger one and a remap!
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