THERMOSTAT
#4
YE FOUND IT SEEMS OK, THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS ITS OVERHEATING, NO HOT AIR COMING FROM THE VENTS SO I THINK IT MAY BE A BHG, IVE NEVER THRASHED IT IVE ALWAYS DRIVEN STEADY AND I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS HAS HAPPENED, A FEW WEEKS AGO THE COOLING FANS WERE NOT WORKING AND GOT THEM FIXED, THE ENGINE OVERHEATED THEN BUT SINCE THE FANS STARTED WORKING AGAIN I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM, I THINK ITS BASICALLY F**KED COULD THERE BE ANY OTHER EXPLENATION FOR OVERHEATING AND HEATER NOT BLOWING HOT AIR??
IF IT WERE A BHG WOULDNT THERE BE WATER IN THE OIL? OR LACK OF COMPRESSION?
IF IT WERE A BHG WOULDNT THERE BE WATER IN THE OIL? OR LACK OF COMPRESSION?
Originally Posted by dieard
i think its inside the large water hose, bottom of the radiator, passenger side.
#5
OH I CANT BE ARSED WITH THIS CAR ,IM SELLING IT BEST OFFER WINS
Originally Posted by mwrx
YE FOUND IT SEEMS OK, THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS ITS OVERHEATING, NO HOT AIR COMING FROM THE VENTS SO I THINK IT MAY BE A BHG, IVE NEVER THRASHED IT IVE ALWAYS DRIVEN STEADY AND I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS HAS HAPPENED, A FEW WEEKS AGO THE COOLING FANS WERE NOT WORKING AND GOT THEM FIXED, THE ENGINE OVERHEATED THEN BUT SINCE THE FANS STARTED WORKING AGAIN I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM, I THINK ITS BASICALLY F**KED COULD THERE BE ANY OTHER EXPLENATION FOR OVERHEATING AND HEATER NOT BLOWING HOT AIR??
IF IT WERE A BHG WOULDNT THERE BE WATER IN THE OIL? OR LACK OF COMPRESSION?
IF IT WERE A BHG WOULDNT THERE BE WATER IN THE OIL? OR LACK OF COMPRESSION?
#6
Originally Posted by mwrx
OH I CANT BE ARSED WITH THIS CAR ,IM SELLING IT BEST OFFER WINS
i have to be careful with what i say, cos some know it all keeps trashing my advise etc..
my head gaskets went, was blowing some warm airm but not hot,
the oil did not mix with the water...so that didnt help looking there,
the collant level didnt even drop.
but the engine temp needle sometimes shot up to max in about 2 secs, then if i put my foot on the gas, it would drop to normal again.
i also noticed a funney knocking noise, also the pipes didnt seem to pressurise at all
took it back to the garage, they fitted new gaskets (both sides) all is well.
it was a really weird one, as most people seem to realt the gaskets with oil in the water and loosing coolant, but mine did not have these at all.
the noise it was making turned out to be the gaskets knocking as when i put my foot down, they where releasing pressure.
#7
SO HOW MUCH AM I LOOKING AT THEN FOR REPAIR? YES MY NEEDLE SHOT UP SUDDENLY TOO BUT WENT HIGHER WHEN I HIT THE GAS, SO YOU THINK IM LOOKING AT A BHG THEN? AND NOTHING ELSE
Originally Posted by dieard
ill pay £100 he he,
i have to be careful with what i say, cos some know it all keeps trashing my advise etc..
my head gaskets went, was blowing some warm airm but not hot,
the oil did not mix with the water...so that didnt help looking there,
the collant level didnt even drop.
but the engine temp needle sometimes shot up to max in about 2 secs, then if i put my foot on the gas, it would drop to normal again.
i also noticed a funney knocking noise, also the pipes didnt seem to pressurise at all
took it back to the garage, they fitted new gaskets (both sides) all is well.
it was a really weird one, as most people seem to realt the gaskets with oil in the water and loosing coolant, but mine did not have these at all.
the noise it was making turned out to be the gaskets knocking as when i put my foot down, they where releasing pressure.
i have to be careful with what i say, cos some know it all keeps trashing my advise etc..
my head gaskets went, was blowing some warm airm but not hot,
the oil did not mix with the water...so that didnt help looking there,
the collant level didnt even drop.
but the engine temp needle sometimes shot up to max in about 2 secs, then if i put my foot on the gas, it would drop to normal again.
i also noticed a funney knocking noise, also the pipes didnt seem to pressurise at all
took it back to the garage, they fitted new gaskets (both sides) all is well.
it was a really weird one, as most people seem to realt the gaskets with oil in the water and loosing coolant, but mine did not have these at all.
the noise it was making turned out to be the gaskets knocking as when i put my foot down, they where releasing pressure.
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#8
Originally Posted by mwrx
SO HOW MUCH AM I LOOKING AT THEN FOR REPAIR? YES MY NEEDLE SHOT UP SUDDENLY TOO BUT WENT HIGHER WHEN I HIT THE GAS, SO YOU THINK IM LOOKING AT A BHG THEN? AND NOTHING ELSE
but be careful,
i was ok, my car was under warranty, so i didnt giv a **** if the engine blew cos i only had it for 2 weeks,
if i where you i wouldnt drive it till its sorted, but if you have too, dont drive on boost. it will just cause other prbs,
i think headgasket job is about £250 but not too sure, depends if one gasket has gone or 2? plus the heads may need to be skimmed in case they have warped.
do you have a warranty or anything?
#9
I honestley think its just the head gasket/s as you have the same prb i had (a weird one)
Im no mechanic though, i just go from past experiance, id say its only the head gaskets and dont think its anyhting else,
but you really need an expert to look at ot for you, they know best,
plus when it gets done, make sure they actually change the gaskets, ive heard too many stories about mechanics just pouring stuff into the eninge thats a temp fix, you know like rad weld does.
Im no mechanic though, i just go from past experiance, id say its only the head gaskets and dont think its anyhting else,
but you really need an expert to look at ot for you, they know best,
plus when it gets done, make sure they actually change the gaskets, ive heard too many stories about mechanics just pouring stuff into the eninge thats a temp fix, you know like rad weld does.
#12
well thanks guys, i took the stat out and put it in a pan of boiling water and it opens and closes ok, buzzard you say could be the water filler cap, how? leakage? also how do i top up the cooling system? is there somewhere else to fill it? confused now:-(
how do i check the matrix is okand make sure theres no airlocks in the system?
how do i check the matrix is okand make sure theres no airlocks in the system?
Originally Posted by buzzard
heater not blowing hot air means top-up your cooling system. two poss reasons for prob could be faulty stat or pressure cap on water fill. a replacement cap is cheap and stats are about 15 i think.
#14
top up on flat surface, with heater on full heat and engine idling but COLD. when system wont take more water refit pressure cap. run engine til stat opens(bottom rad pipe will get hot). switch off,allow to cool down, remove pressure cap and top up if nec.keep an eye on temp guage all the while.
#15
coolant
ive recently topped up the coolant bottle (behind the lamp passenger side) 2 weeks ago, funny thing is its still 'FULL' and its been pretty hot the last 2 weeks.
whats going on? is there a pump or what?
the water still seems pretty clear i.e. theres no trace of the blue coolant in there.
cheers
whats going on? is there a pump or what?
the water still seems pretty clear i.e. theres no trace of the blue coolant in there.
cheers
#16
Originally Posted by Swift Cee
ive recently topped up the coolant bottle (behind the lamp passenger side) 2 weeks ago, funny thing is its still 'FULL' and its been pretty hot the last 2 weeks.
whats going on? is there a pump or what?
the water still seems pretty clear i.e. theres no trace of the blue coolant in there.
cheers
whats going on? is there a pump or what?
the water still seems pretty clear i.e. theres no trace of the blue coolant in there.
cheers
id prob get it to a dealer or garage at this point, i wasted my money on a thermo too,
remeber i had exactley the same prbs as you.
get it to garage and let a pro av a look,
#17
Originally Posted by dieard
still could be the gasket mate........but could be the water pump?
id prob get it to a dealer or garage at this point, i wasted my money on a thermo too,
remeber i had exactley the same prbs as you.
get it to garage and let a pro av a look,
id prob get it to a dealer or garage at this point, i wasted my money on a thermo too,
remeber i had exactley the same prbs as you.
get it to garage and let a pro av a look,
its easier if you use a bottle with the bottom cut off, and use some tape to tape it to the header tank, fill the tank, then start the engine,
keep fillingn the tank, and keep the engine ticking over, eventually it will stop taking water.
dont worry about overfilling, you have areserve tank that will take care of this,
keep engine running until the water stops bubbling,
if the water starts to come out like lava out of a volcano, or carries on to bubble, its also another sign of a blown head gasket.
BUT IM NO MECHANIC, SO WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW!
#18
Originally Posted by dieard
oh, also have you made sure you have no air in the system since topping back up after changeing the thermo?
its easier if you use a bottle with the bottom cut off, and use some tape to tape it to the header tank, fill the tank, then start the engine,
keep fillingn the tank, and keep the engine ticking over, eventually it will stop taking water.
dont worry about overfilling, you have areserve tank that will take care of this,
keep engine running until the water stops bubbling,
if the water starts to come out like lava out of a volcano, or carries on to bubble, its also another sign of a blown head gasket.
BUT IM NO MECHANIC, SO WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW!
its easier if you use a bottle with the bottom cut off, and use some tape to tape it to the header tank, fill the tank, then start the engine,
keep fillingn the tank, and keep the engine ticking over, eventually it will stop taking water.
dont worry about overfilling, you have areserve tank that will take care of this,
keep engine running until the water stops bubbling,
if the water starts to come out like lava out of a volcano, or carries on to bubble, its also another sign of a blown head gasket.
BUT IM NO MECHANIC, SO WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW!
this is very import!
#20
always check the obvious
wel i put it all back together again this morning, i realised last night that when i took the radiator off no water came out, all this time its been overheating and all ive been doing is filling the engine with water and not the rad, so i filled the rad this morning via the large top hose and put it back on, and to my extatic relief i got hot air coming through the heater, so at the end of it it was just due to loss of water but not realising you cant fill the radiator from the filler cap, the rad has to be filled independantly, so it goes to show just check the obvious 1st.
thanks everyone for your help.
lee
thanks everyone for your help.
lee
Originally Posted by dieard
oh, also have you made sure you have no air in the system since topping back up after changeing the thermo?
its easier if you use a bottle with the bottom cut off, and use some tape to tape it to the header tank, fill the tank, then start the engine,
keep fillingn the tank, and keep the engine ticking over, eventually it will stop taking water.
dont worry about overfilling, you have areserve tank that will take care of this,
keep engine running until the water stops bubbling,
if the water starts to come out like lava out of a volcano, or carries on to bubble, its also another sign of a blown head gasket.
BUT IM NO MECHANIC, SO WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW!
its easier if you use a bottle with the bottom cut off, and use some tape to tape it to the header tank, fill the tank, then start the engine,
keep fillingn the tank, and keep the engine ticking over, eventually it will stop taking water.
dont worry about overfilling, you have areserve tank that will take care of this,
keep engine running until the water stops bubbling,
if the water starts to come out like lava out of a volcano, or carries on to bubble, its also another sign of a blown head gasket.
BUT IM NO MECHANIC, SO WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW!
#22
say there is a blockage, im still getting hot air through the heater and the temp now is just below normal where it stays.
Originally Posted by buzzard
there must be a blockage. you shouldnt have to fill rad independently.
#23
if theres a blockage then when temps rise and stat opens coolant from rad can not circulate into the engine and so engine coolant boils creating huge pressure and ejection of coolant from the weakest point. maybe thats how you lost your coolant the first time. keep an eye on things.
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