Just attempted to fit my downpipe,but
28 September 2005, 05:51 PM
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Just attempted to fit my downpipe,but
The mechanic who tried to fit it made a bit of a bodge of it,well i think he did.
Dropped the car of at 9am this morning, all's well,said they would ring when it was finished.
So at 1pm received a call saying they have'nt been able to do it because the bolts that go from the downpipe to the turbo have been cross- threaded.
Also he kept saying that it would run like a bag of **** because there would be no back pressure?
Also saying that there are two sensors on the old pipe,but only one of them fits into the new downpipe?
And to top it off he has cut my turbo heatshield straight down the top of it splitting it into two
He said he had to cut it due to the new downpipe not having the same fittings for it, fair-play,but was there any need to butcher it to bits?
So at the end of it he has said that the turbo needs to be taken off and the holes re-tapped!!!!!
Can anyone tell me if it sounds like this guy knows what he's on about?
Also what are those 2 sensors on the downpipe?and will it have any effect if only one of them is connected?
Cheers
dannytwo
Dropped the car of at 9am this morning, all's well,said they would ring when it was finished.
So at 1pm received a call saying they have'nt been able to do it because the bolts that go from the downpipe to the turbo have been cross- threaded.
Also he kept saying that it would run like a bag of **** because there would be no back pressure?
Also saying that there are two sensors on the old pipe,but only one of them fits into the new downpipe?
And to top it off he has cut my turbo heatshield straight down the top of it splitting it into two
He said he had to cut it due to the new downpipe not having the same fittings for it, fair-play,but was there any need to butcher it to bits?
So at the end of it he has said that the turbo needs to be taken off and the holes re-tapped!!!!!
Can anyone tell me if it sounds like this guy knows what he's on about?
Also what are those 2 sensors on the downpipe?and will it have any effect if only one of them is connected?
Cheers
dannytwo
28 September 2005, 06:20 PM
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my bolts stipped the thread when i removed them,they were not cross threaded.i think they were damaged by the heat.took me about 2 hours to undo them.i had to replace the studs and fit plasters all up my arms!
28 September 2005, 06:50 PM
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here's a few pics:rolleye:
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28 September 2005, 07:00 PM
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The blokes a butcher...... the fixings for the heatshield aren't on the downpipe anyway, they're on a bracket that bolt to the turbo, and the bracket that supports the turbo, so thereofre absolutely no need whatsoever to cut the heatshield like that, also, the 'bolts' that have supposedly been cross threaded are more then likely the STUDS that are on the underneath 3 fixings, therefore given the right person doing the job, there's no reason why the STUDS can't be changed!!
Best to get someone who knows what they're doing to do it....
Best to get someone who knows what they're doing to do it....
28 September 2005, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RON
The blokes a butcher...... the fixings for the heatshield aren't on the downpipe anyway, they're on a bracket that bolt to the turbo, and the bracket that supports the turbo, so thereofre absolutely no need whatsoever to cut the heatshield like that, also, the 'bolts' that have supposedly been cross threaded are more then likely the STUDS that are on the underneath 3 fixings, therefore given the right person doing the job, there's no reason why the STUDS can't be changed!!
Best to get someone who knows what they're doing to do it....
Best to get someone who knows what they're doing to do it....
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28 September 2005, 07:41 PM
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WTF 
Dan what a bodge ! NO need whatsoever to cut the heat shield,as alraedy stated mine also crossed coming off (but i managed to run a 1.25mm die nut down and a new nut)and it was the usual one at the bottom,
Get the studs out (a bit of heat will soon move them) and replace them then get the shield welded back up then you can open the neck out to fit over the decat pipe without any probs,if your not going to do it yaself DONT let that guy any where near it ! Find someone else .....
Look on here m8
http://stefanostadal.homedns.org/car_mods_engine.htm
Dan what a bodge ! NO need whatsoever to cut the heat shield,as alraedy stated mine also crossed coming off (but i managed to run a 1.25mm die nut down and a new nut)and it was the usual one at the bottom,
Get the studs out (a bit of heat will soon move them) and replace them then get the shield welded back up then you can open the neck out to fit over the decat pipe without any probs,if your not going to do it yaself DONT let that guy any where near it ! Find someone else .....
Look on here m8
http://stefanostadal.homedns.org/car_mods_engine.htm
28 September 2005, 07:44 PM
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is it worth me going back to see this so called mechanic for a refund of the price of a heatshield?
how much are there?
And would it affect the back pressure? or is he talking **** again?
a sad dannytwo
how much are there?
And would it affect the back pressure? or is he talking **** again?
a sad dannytwo
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28 September 2005, 08:14 PM
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That's a new way of doing it!!
Split the heat shield, prise them apart, swap d/pipe and push together.
Bet it rattles and squeaks like 4ugger!
The 2nd sensor that he couldn't find a hole for is an EGT sensor. It lives at the bottom of the d/pipe and isn't usually found on aftermarket exhausts. It can be left off.
The other one, near the top is very important though.
As for x-threading the turbo stud holes....
Can you pick him out in this picture by any chance?
Split the heat shield, prise them apart, swap d/pipe and push together.
Bet it rattles and squeaks like 4ugger!
The 2nd sensor that he couldn't find a hole for is an EGT sensor. It lives at the bottom of the d/pipe and isn't usually found on aftermarket exhausts. It can be left off.
The other one, near the top is very important though.
As for x-threading the turbo stud holes....
Can you pick him out in this picture by any chance?
28 September 2005, 08:31 PM
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It must be the tw*t in the captains outfit.....a.k.a CAPTAIN COCKUP...!
Sorry to say this Al but I told you £40 was way too cheap mate, especially as you'd gone to this guy just before you blew the engine up after his "service".......!
Proper job on this is at least an hour and a half if you know what you're doing
.......should've waited for Ian, the guys on here are right, they are studs not "proper" bolts and they do make your knuckles bleed too...
With regards to the heatshield, mine was trimmed while putting decat pipe on so it's not that uncommon, although, there's absolutely no need to butcher it though.
Where's the car now then.....still at captain cockup's......?
You don't have much luck with this car do ya?
Si.
ps: wait for Ian to come back B4 you fit the eibachs.
pps:I'm not havin a go at ya because you're as impatient as me and I understand your' quest for more power ....GOD KNOWS WHY.......
Sorry to say this Al but I told you £40 was way too cheap mate, especially as you'd gone to this guy just before you blew the engine up after his "service".......!
Proper job on this is at least an hour and a half if you know what you're doing
.......should've waited for Ian, the guys on here are right, they are studs not "proper" bolts and they do make your knuckles bleed too...
With regards to the heatshield, mine was trimmed while putting decat pipe on so it's not that uncommon, although, there's absolutely no need to butcher it though.
Where's the car now then.....still at captain cockup's......?
You don't have much luck with this car do ya?
Si.
ps: wait for Ian to come back B4 you fit the eibachs.
pps:I'm not havin a go at ya because you're as impatient as me and I understand your' quest for more power ....GOD KNOWS WHY.......
28 September 2005, 08:33 PM
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This guy,s a cowboy is the down pipe blowin of the turbo now he,s codged it if you need some taps n dies to rethread the studs let me know and i,ll bring some with me on Sunday if you are doing the Stoke to Derby run.You will get a second hand sheild from Scoobyclinic
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OMG thats the worst botch I have ever seen, I know a bit about spanner work and have decatted a few scoobs inc having to cut off the bolts and re thread them, all done outside my house with no garage facilities 
I would steer well clear of this bloke and as for saying it will run crap without back pressure.....well he has already show his intimate knowledge
I would steer well clear of this bloke and as for saying it will run crap without back pressure.....well he has already show his intimate knowledge
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he'll have cut the heatshield rather than take the intercooler off to get it out of the way- I did that once in my younger more stupid days.
egt probe, as mentioned earlier, can be removed; simply unplug it from the loom.
egt probe, as mentioned earlier, can be removed; simply unplug it from the loom.
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29 September 2005, 12:00 AM
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If the studs are knackered they are about 2.50 each from ure local subaru dealer, some mulgrips and a bit of heat on the turbo exhaust flange will make them budge, then just wind the new one in with two nuts on the end to tighten it up.
When mine went when i removed the exhaust one time, i found it was going to be safer to remove the turbo to do the studs, did not fancy waving a gas axe around in my engine bay next to all them wires and fuel lines etc!
Dan.
When mine went when i removed the exhaust one time, i found it was going to be safer to remove the turbo to do the studs, did not fancy waving a gas axe around in my engine bay next to all them wires and fuel lines etc!
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Scoobyclinic fitted my decat up-pipe and down-pipe, inc modifying heatsheild (note modifying not butchering..!) and AFAIR a few seized bolts, took around 3 hrs (two guys working on it at on point) all for the price of £120..!
Well worth it if you ask me.
No drama and an excellent 1st rate job..!
Now does your £40 sound cheap..?
All you can say is you've learn't a valuable lesson about using this guy or anyone like him who claims to know what their doing. You can't beat recomendations..!
) and AFAIR a few seized bolts, took around 3 hrs (two guys working on it at on point) all for the price of £120..!Well worth it if you ask me.
No drama and an excellent 1st rate job..!
Now does your £40 sound cheap..?
All you can say is you've learn't a valuable lesson about using this guy or anyone like him who claims to know what their doing. You can't beat recomendations..!
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Alan, If you do have real problems removing the bolt, you could take the dp / turbo off and bring it around to my house and I could weld a bolt to it and shift it that way. I wouldn't want to do it in-situe.
If the threads need re-tapping you will have problems as they are probably metric fine pitch and I don't have any of those sort of taps.
If the threads need re-tapping you will have problems as they are probably metric fine pitch and I don't have any of those sort of taps.
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Originally Posted by jasonius
All you can say is you've learn't a valuable lesson about using this guy or anyone like him who claims to know what their doing. You can't beat recomendations..!
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