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Old 30 October 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Will be picking up my TD05 16g this week, just wondered as a bolt on only mod, how much difference are there between the three variants?

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Old 30 October 2005 | 04:50 PM
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350,380 and 400bhp, and slightly more lag the bigger you go. thats about it really
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16G good for upto 350BHP
18G " " " 380BHP
20G " " " 400+BHP
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Are the internal part interchangable, or are they complely different.

I.e can 16g be converted to 18 or 20?


Thanks for your answers already guys
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Thats what happens mate, when you are at work with nothing better to do!

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Yes the compressors wheels can be changed, so the 16g can be converted to 18g or 20g if you so desire.

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Old 30 October 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Yes the compressors wheels can be changed, so the 16g can be converted to 18g or 20g if you so desire.

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How much is involved in this, and where can you get the compressor wheels from?

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How much is involved in this, and where can you get the compressor wheels from?

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Anyone?

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Andy Forrest would be a good person to ask i'd have thought
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Id have thought he would have other things to worry about at the moment,
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i guess i've missed something is all ok???
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i guess i've missed something is all ok???
Im assuming Andy Forrest is Andy F... yes?

If so check out the crash thread on General, he is ok though.


Sorry if they are two different people.


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yeah they the same, soz about that i didnt know, i kinda find myself out of touch at the mo due to work!

glad to hear he's ok though, i found the thread after your last post !!!
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I was thinking though would the 20g be too much for my standard WRX box and clutch?


Maybe i would be better staying with 16g
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they are both going to shorten the life of the box and clutch, just to different degrees.
with more power you will find your gonna have to sort the clutch out deffo and the box sooner or later, with the 20G it will need doing a bit sooner thats all,
i will be putting a 20G on my MY99 in a few months along with other supporting mods and hopefullt i will see if i can get it to 400 and i fully expect to need a new box sooner rather than later, my clutch is ok as it's been uprated already when i had a new engine put in.
i'm sure your going to need another clutch though before long, good this tuning lark
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Originally Posted by scoobysmiff
they are both going to shorten the life of the box and clutch, just to different degrees.
with more power you will find your gonna have to sort the clutch out deffo and the box sooner or later, with the 20G it will need doing a bit sooner thats all,
i will be putting a 20G on my MY99 in a few months along with other supporting mods and hopefullt i will see if i can get it to 400 and i fully expect to need a new box sooner rather than later, my clutch is ok as it's been uprated already when i had a new engine put in.
i'm sure your going to need another clutch though before long, good this tuning lark
What are the triple plate paddle clutch's like and what power can thet handle?

Would like one of those, as it is not an every day car..
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out of the 16g and the 20g i prefer the 16g for the outright accelleration and quicker spoolup. but i still love my 20g turbo 1st and 2nd gear are a little quicker on the 16g turbo but the 20g has it in every other gear from then and pulls a lot harder as well
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Originally Posted by stevebt
out of the 16g and the 20g i prefer the 16g for the outright accelleration and quicker spoolup. but i still love my 20g turbo 1st and 2nd gear are a little quicker on the 16g turbo but the 20g has it in every other gear from then and pulls a lot harder as well
What where you running it in though, i will be running on WRX engine and really dont want to pop it.
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your engine will be fine, im still running a 20g turbp on a standard UK engine and andy tuned it to 1.4bar and it peaks at 1.5bar on the defi's

the 16g was mapped at 1.6bar and used to peak at 1.7bar on the defi's
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Originally Posted by stevebt
your engine will be fine, im still running a 20g turbp on a standard UK engine and andy tuned it to 1.4bar and it peaks at 1.5bar on the defi's

the 16g was mapped at 1.6bar and used to peak at 1.7bar on the defi's
I had no idea you could run that type of boost on cast pistons etc, how long was you running that set up for. And what power figures did you achieve?

Hmmmm, if you could have im assuming i could.
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i have been running this lot for about a year and a half, 1st 6 months on 16g and the rest on the 20g, never had the car on the rollers with the 20g but i would assume around 400bhp'ish give or take a few bhp
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Originally Posted by stevebt
i have been running this lot for about a year and a half, 1st 6 months on 16g and the rest on the 20g, never had the car on the rollers with the 20g but i would assume around 400bhp'ish give or take a few bhp
On standard engine UK internals




What clutch with that power?
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i think its a john pye clutch rated to about 400bhp, not quite sure as the garage sorted it out for me when i changed my gearbox
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I just wondered what you have at the moment ?

in my bugeye I've gone from OEM TD04 to TD05 16g to TD05 18g all on standard internals....... Usual mods and mapped by Bob Rawle and Andy F

I have to say that the Andy F supplied TD05 16g with STi TMIC, STi injectors, De-cat, fuel pump, reg and mapping on the road with Bob Rawle certainly gave the best value ..........and 325 BHP

I gather AndyF's hybrid TD04 is also tasty !!

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Originally Posted by stevebt
out of the 16g and the 20g i prefer the 16g for the outright accelleration and quicker spoolup. but i still love my 20g turbo 1st and 2nd gear are a little quicker on the 16g turbo but the 20g has it in every other gear from then and pulls a lot harder as well
Would that not mean that 18g is best all-rounder?????????
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Going back to a previous question, where do i get the compressor wheels from, and how much work is involved in changing them over


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Old 02 November 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cookstar
Going back to a previous question, where do i get the compressor wheels from, and how much work is involved in changing them over


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andy f will probably help you or possibly zen performance
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i've no idea to be honest as i've never had the pleasure of being in a car that has required one, YET!
if it's not going to be needed as a daily driver then i'd put one in regardless just so you know that it will be suitable, no point going to all that trouble and still wondering if your clutch is going to be ok
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What are the triple plate paddle clutch's like and what power can thet handle?

Would like one of those, as it is not an every day car..
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Originally Posted by LegacySTi
Would that not mean that 18g is best all-rounder?????????
Andyf recomended this turbo to me


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