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Old 15 November 2005, 12:30 PM
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Question Power FC On UK Car

I have just fitted an Apexi Power FC to my UK Impreza, all powers up but the car will not start, is there an issue with the factory fit immobiliser that I am missing or does the Power FC need to be set up/mapped to start the car, apparantly it is supposed to come with a base map, any info would most welcome !
Old 15 November 2005, 12:40 PM
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Think I have read on here about the imobiliser issue before, do a search.
Although the power fc comes with a base map, if you got it from japan, i believe it is optimised for their fuel so 100 octane so if you got it running really wouldnt advise driving on boost until it is remapped. I may be wrong on that but again I am sure I read it on here just a few days ago.
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I am pretty sure that a couple of wires need swapping around to run the PFC on a UK car. Can't remember which ones though!
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what year?

you need to swap the crank and cam sensor wires over and immobiliser / fuel pump wire is 97-98.

the base map is not suitable for uk fuel.. you are most likely to damage the engine driving it on the base map.

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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
what year?

you need to swap the crank and cam sensor wires over.

the base map is not suitable for uk fuel.. you are most likely to damage the engine driving it on the base map.

Simon
Its An MY97 Car
Do you know the location of the wires in the plugs on the ECU?
Only want to start the car to make sure the ECU is O.K
Going to get it professionally mapped once I have sorted final spec of engine

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You need to swap the crank and cam pins on B136 (22way connector) pin 8 & pin 10, they are reversed to prevent you just swapping a UK ECU for a JDM one because the timing and fueling is so different.

you then need to move the fuel pump relay pin, which is on B137 (26 way connector) swap between pin 7 and 17.

medium hassle to swap and then swap back, might be better left for when it is mapped.

Simon
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
You need to swap the crank and cam pins on B136 (22way connector) pin 8 & pin 10, they are reversed to prevent you just swapping a UK ECU for a JDM one because the timing and fueling is so different.

you then need to move the fuel pump relay pin, which is on B137 (26 way connector) swap between pin 7 and 17.

Simon
Mine wont need swapping about will it Simon when you map it next week (hopefully) it is a jap import?
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
Mine wont need swapping about will it Simon when you map it next week (hopefully) it is a jap import?
no plugs straight in on an import.. and yours is a phase 1 and they didn't change the pins on them

See you a week on Friday

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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
no plugs straight in on an import.. and yours is a phase 1 and they didn't change the pins on them

See you a week on Friday

Simon
oops, having a mad 5 myself, just read your other post more or less on about the same thing. Counting down the days until it is fitted and mapped. Knowing my luck though will probably blow the engine on the Friday coming back from work. As I will be there before you, I have 2 bungs in my downpipe, one near the top and one near the bottom. Which do you want me to remove so that you can fit whatever you fit?
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
oops, having a mad 5 myself, just read your other post more or less on about the same thing. Counting down the days until it is fitted and mapped. Knowing my luck though will probably blow the engine on the Friday coming back from work. As I will be there before you, I have 2 bungs in my downpipe, one near the top and one near the bottom. Which do you want me to remove so that you can fit whatever you fit?
so turn the AVC-R off before you drive home from work to meet me!!

top one please - regarding downpipe bung. I have a nice big ring spanner and a can of WD40 if you have trouble.

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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
so turn the AVC-R off before you drive home from work to meet me!!

top one please - regarding downpipe bung. I have a nice big ring spanner and a can of WD40 if you have trouble.

Thanks
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Hmm suppose I could use setting [B], dont think I have that set up though!, will loosen the bung this weekend and then re tighten. Should be okay as downpipe isnt that old. Still need to fit my new fuel pump though, really need to do that this weekend.
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I can fit the pump for you if you run out of time etc..

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I should be alright, had a quick look under the back seat yesterday but didnt see the signs that I was looking for, then re read some instructions and it is in the boot under the carpet so may look tonight. (means removing my bass box and amp though) the things that are done for performance.
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Its not a difficult job.

you will access it easiest with the rear seat removed but it is in the boot..

Simon
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
You need to swap the crank and cam pins on B136 (22way connector) pin 8 & pin 10, they are reversed to prevent you just swapping a UK ECU for a JDM one because the timing and fueling is so different.

you then need to move the fuel pump relay pin, which is on B137 (26 way connector) swap between pin 7 and 17.

medium hassle to swap and then swap back, might be better left for when it is mapped.

Simon
Do you map Power FC's Simon, if so would you be interested in mapping mine?
Old 16 November 2005, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Who
Do you map Power FC's Simon, if so would you be interested in mapping mine?
yeah.. drop me a PM to discuss or email me Simon@JollyGreenMonster.co.uk

Thanks
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Old 16 November 2005, 11:10 AM
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We also map PowerFCs but have the benetfit of a fully equiped workshop, a stock of Subaru spares should you need coil packs etc. Perhaps most important of all, we are fully insured, which is something you should think about in the unlikely event that a mapping mishap inadvertently causes third party damage (which could happen to any mapper).

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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
We also map PowerFCs but have the benetfit of a fully equiped workshop, a stock of Subaru spares should you need coil packs etc. Perhaps most important of all, we are fully insured, which is something you should think about in the unlikely event that a mapping mishap inadvertently causes third party damage (which could happen to any mapper).

Cheers

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Thank you for your valid input Paul.

I also have insurance.

Authorised Advertiser pending.

and keep a number of spares.

I fail to see why I should be justifying myself and I am unsure if I have managed to annoy you some how Paul, but presume you post was purely to try and undermine me.

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I'm not trying to undermine you, I'm just trying to earn my living the same as you. It's a competitive market place, and I need to add as much value as I can to my services. If I am able to say these things in public without a moderater breathing down my neck, then that's value for money on my spend with scoobynet.
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
I'm not trying to undermine you, I'm just trying to earn my living the same as you. It's a competitive market place, and I need to add as much value as I can to my services. If I am able to say these things in public without a moderater breathing down my neck, then that's value for money on my spend with scoobynet.
lol..

I suspect we should take this conversation off-line Paul.

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Just when it was getting interesting
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Mapper wars = price wars

We mortals can only hope...

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