Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

AP/Exedy/Helix/Toda

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 26 January 2006 | 11:12 AM
  #1  
RB5_245's Avatar
RB5_245
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,703
Likes: 0
Question AP/Exedy/Helix/Toda

These are the choices after a too long trawl through the interweb searching for clutches.

I reckon a ceramettallic(?!) paddle clutch will be the way to go aiming for 400lb/ft, I'd prefer organic but I doubt it would last?

All seem to be very similarly priced.


AP seems to be tried and tested, but has a lower torque rating than the rest

I've heard a few early failure storys about exedy, but these could well be unsubstantiated.

Helix is the most expensive

Toda.... I don't know anyone who's ever heard of this make.


Any experences/opinions on the matter? In the absense of opinion I'll probably go with exedy or helix.

Cheers,
Dave
Old 26 January 2006 | 11:34 AM
  #2  
ZEN Performance's Avatar
ZEN Performance
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 0
From: Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
Default

If you have a 6 speed box, then I would go with the AP or STI uprated organic clutch. 5 Speed is trickier, ap organic should be just up to the job, but it won't like lots of drag racing.
Old 26 January 2006 | 03:20 PM
  #3  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

Exedy uprated organic is happy with lots of drag abuse @340lb/ft

David@APi warrantees them to a certain output - 400 if memory serves me correct....worth asking him.


Bob
Old 26 January 2006 | 04:48 PM
  #4  
scoobyDAZZA's Avatar
scoobyDAZZA
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,944
Likes: 0
From: devon
Default

hope he does bob
my 1st exedy organic from camskill lasted 4000 miles

they only warrant them for 3000 miles , what a suprise

but the 1 from david looks twice as strong yet they're both exedy organics ????????????????????

and the 1 from david was alot cheaper
Old 26 January 2006 | 04:52 PM
  #5  
ZEN Performance's Avatar
ZEN Performance
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 0
From: Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
Default

Originally Posted by BOB'5
Exedy uprated organic is happy with lots of drag abuse @340lb/ft

David@APi warrantees them to a certain output - 400 if memory serves me correct....worth asking him.


Bob
You're not that abusive from the videos! AP friction plate is much better once hot, it has a higher metal content, it does however judder more as a result.

Exedy organic is excellent value.
Old 26 January 2006 | 04:56 PM
  #6  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

Daz: There is a cheaper 'Exedy' organic which costs around £120 (aka borg&beck). Maybe camskill sent you the wrong one?

Paul: One careful owner, never dragged or tracked
Old 26 January 2006 | 04:57 PM
  #7  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

Paul: What do you class as abuse?
Old 26 January 2006 | 05:22 PM
  #8  
ZEN Performance's Avatar
ZEN Performance
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 0
From: Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
Default

Originally Posted by BOB'5
Paul: What do you class as abuse?
slipping it to the point that it doesn't grip, then slipping some more instead of letting it cool down.
Old 26 January 2006 | 05:28 PM
  #9  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

is there an advantage to doing that?
Old 26 January 2006 | 07:11 PM
  #10  
ZEN Performance's Avatar
ZEN Performance
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 0
From: Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
Default

Originally Posted by BOB'5
is there an advantage to doing that?
Abuse = bad
Old 26 January 2006 | 07:19 PM
  #11  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

In that case I should have said...

"Exedy uprated organic is happy with lots of drag use with hard launches"

Old 26 January 2006 | 07:24 PM
  #12  
RB5_245's Avatar
RB5_245
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,703
Likes: 0
Talking

Originally Posted by BOB'5
is there an advantage to doing that?
Yes, you get a brand new clutch much sooner than you otherwise would have

Dave
Old 26 January 2006 | 10:16 PM
  #13  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

I was taking the P
Old 26 January 2006 | 10:18 PM
  #14  
RB5_245's Avatar
RB5_245
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,703
Likes: 0
Wink

Sorry, I must have lost my command of sarcasm





Dave




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:26 AM.