Newage Sti Surging ????
04 February 2006, 06:50 PM
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Newage Sti Surging ????
Following on from this thread
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483253
MY2001 Jdm Sti 7.
Underload on light throttle in the higher Gears 4th & up seems to hold back / surge. If you gun it through the gears No problem. Car went to Tsl & they could not find any issues apart from the O2 sensor was a little slow on cycling.
So i replaced it >>
Now, Question ??
Why would a new O2 sensor appear to make this problem Worse ???
Any Ideas Please.
Thanks V Much
Dean
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483253
MY2001 Jdm Sti 7.
Underload on light throttle in the higher Gears 4th & up seems to hold back / surge. If you gun it through the gears No problem. Car went to Tsl & they could not find any issues apart from the O2 sensor was a little slow on cycling.
So i replaced it >>
Now, Question ??
Why would a new O2 sensor appear to make this problem Worse ???
Any Ideas Please.
Thanks V Much
Dean
06 February 2006, 01:30 AM
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ive also got this problem on my sti 7.... really annoys me when on motorway.. do you have a VTA dump valve fitted? did you checked all the hoses under the intercooler??
let me know if you solve the problem
thanks
kevin
let me know if you solve the problem
thanks
kevin
06 February 2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ~DrEaM~
ive also got this problem on my sti 7.... really annoys me when on motorway.. do you have a VTA dump valve fitted? did you checked all the hoses under the intercooler??
let me know if you solve the problem
thanks
kevin
let me know if you solve the problem
thanks
kevin
No Vta Dumper, just the standard one, I have not had the intercooler off yet, One of the next jobs.
& i have to agree, On Long roads, Dual Carriageways & motorways it is really annoying, I Love the car but it's P1ssing me off.
I'll keep in touch.
Im planning on isolating a few items, Boost solenoid, Wastegate Etc also.
Mine does not stay constant, Some days better/worse than others !! What about yours ??
Dean
06 February 2006, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DeanF
Hi Kevin.
No Vta Dumper, just the standard one, I have not had the intercooler off yet, One of the next jobs.
& i have to agree, On Long roads, Dual Carriageways & motorways it is really annoying, I Love the car but it's P1ssing me off.
I'll keep in touch.
Im planning on isolating a few items, Boost solenoid, Wastegate Etc also.
Mine does not stay constant, Some days better/worse than others !! What about yours ??
Dean
No Vta Dumper, just the standard one, I have not had the intercooler off yet, One of the next jobs.
& i have to agree, On Long roads, Dual Carriageways & motorways it is really annoying, I Love the car but it's P1ssing me off.
I'll keep in touch.
Im planning on isolating a few items, Boost solenoid, Wastegate Etc also.
Mine does not stay constant, Some days better/worse than others !! What about yours ??
Dean
06 February 2006, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ~DrEaM~
mine only does it when on 5th or 6th gear on motorways, when i floor it every gear its fine..??
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08 February 2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ~DrEaM~
I never got round to the Boost solenoid test. But i did replace my battery as the voltages were low & after 2/3 days standing it was a little lethargic at starting, I also reset the Ecu.
Now since this, The car has seemed Tremendously better, I will have to keep an eye on it , but for the time being it seems Ok.
Keep in touch.
Dean
08 February 2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DeanF
Hi Kevin.
I never got round to the Boost solenoid test. But i did replace my battery as the voltages were low & after 2/3 days standing it was a little lethargic at starting, I also reset the Ecu.
Now since this, The car has seemed Tremendously better, I will have to keep an eye on it , but for the time being it seems Ok.
Keep in touch.
Dean
I never got round to the Boost solenoid test. But i did replace my battery as the voltages were low & after 2/3 days standing it was a little lethargic at starting, I also reset the Ecu.
Now since this, The car has seemed Tremendously better, I will have to keep an eye on it , but for the time being it seems Ok.
Keep in touch.
Dean
08 February 2006, 07:00 PM
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Does your car have a decat without having been mapped for it ?
If so, then 99% sure it is the boost control set up in the ECU, they need substantial work on the control loops and wastegate settings to avoid the boost surging (not compressor surge, thats different) on light loads in higher gears.
The JDM ECU's run a very nice programme (much better than the UK of the same year) so it can be mapped out.
Andy
If so, then 99% sure it is the boost control set up in the ECU, they need substantial work on the control loops and wastegate settings to avoid the boost surging (not compressor surge, thats different) on light loads in higher gears.
The JDM ECU's run a very nice programme (much better than the UK of the same year) so it can be mapped out.
Andy
08 February 2006, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Does your car have a decat without having been mapped for it ?
If so, then 99% sure it is the boost control set up in the ECU, they need substantial work on the control loops and wastegate settings to avoid the boost surging (not compressor surge, thats different) on light loads in higher gears.
The JDM ECU's run a very nice programme (much better than the UK of the same year) so it can be mapped out.
Andy
If so, then 99% sure it is the boost control set up in the ECU, they need substantial work on the control loops and wastegate settings to avoid the boost surging (not compressor surge, thats different) on light loads in higher gears.
The JDM ECU's run a very nice programme (much better than the UK of the same year) so it can be mapped out.
Andy
thanks
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08 February 2006, 07:29 PM
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In the short term you can fit a larger boost restrictor in the T piece between the wastegate and turbo outlet. This may also reduce your full boost level which is probably not what you want !
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08 February 2006, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Does your car have a decat without having been mapped for it ?
If so, then 99% sure it is the boost control set up in the ECU, they need substantial work on the control loops and wastegate settings to avoid the boost surging (not compressor surge, thats different) on light loads in higher gears.
The JDM ECU's run a very nice programme (much better than the UK of the same year) so it can be mapped out.
Andy
If so, then 99% sure it is the boost control set up in the ECU, they need substantial work on the control loops and wastegate settings to avoid the boost surging (not compressor surge, thats different) on light loads in higher gears.
The JDM ECU's run a very nice programme (much better than the UK of the same year) so it can be mapped out.
Andy
Mine still has the Cat in the downPipe !!??
I see your down with Graham (911) in March, Im seriously thinking Remap, Remap & Remap
Can you Pm me a rough cost Etc.Thanks
Dean
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09 February 2006, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DeanF
Following on from this thread
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483253
MY2001 Jdm Sti 7.
Underload on light throttle in the higher Gears 4th & up seems to hold back / surge. If you gun it through the gears No problem. Car went to Tsl & they could not find any issues apart from the O2 sensor was a little slow on cycling.
So i replaced it >>
Now, Question ??
Why would a new O2 sensor appear to make this problem Worse ???
Any Ideas Please.
Thanks V Much
Dean
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483253
MY2001 Jdm Sti 7.
Underload on light throttle in the higher Gears 4th & up seems to hold back / surge. If you gun it through the gears No problem. Car went to Tsl & they could not find any issues apart from the O2 sensor was a little slow on cycling.
So i replaced it >>
Now, Question ??
Why would a new O2 sensor appear to make this problem Worse ???
Any Ideas Please.
Thanks V Much
Dean
Dean, i have had my car fixed now, i have updated the thread you referenced, but for your info this is what i put,
Hi, my car has been fixed. It was fixed by Richard Bulmer (the original mapper)and Pete at Prosport in Stockport. I dont think it was the map as such, but the fix did involve a software change, something to do with the Lamba controller, whatever that is????? Anyway Pete is confident that they have now found the fix to this issue, give him a ring.
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09 February 2006, 10:52 AM
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My car does this too. I am saving up for a remap to have it sorted out but also have a fuel pump and an exhaust to fit before I can get it done.
I currently have a full 3" decat and am changing to 2.5" for driveability and noise reduction purposes.
A question though, if I fit the standard exhaust will the problem go away ?
Cheers
Ken
I currently have a full 3" decat and am changing to 2.5" for driveability and noise reduction purposes.
A question though, if I fit the standard exhaust will the problem go away ?
Cheers
Ken
09 February 2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevie_h
Dean, i have had my car fixed now, i have updated the thread you referenced, but for your info this is what i put,
Hi, my car has been fixed. It was fixed by Richard Bulmer (the original mapper)and Pete at Prosport in Stockport. I dont think it was the map as such, but the fix did involve a software change, something to do with the Lamba controller, whatever that is????? Anyway Pete is confident that they have now found the fix to this issue, give him a ring.
steve
Hi, my car has been fixed. It was fixed by Richard Bulmer (the original mapper)and Pete at Prosport in Stockport. I dont think it was the map as such, but the fix did involve a software change, something to do with the Lamba controller, whatever that is????? Anyway Pete is confident that they have now found the fix to this issue, give him a ring.
steve
The lambda controller issue would probably fit with me replacing the lambda & the problem feeling worse !!!!
I'll give him a call
Dean
09 February 2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevie_h
What is a Lamba controller then?
Ste
Ste
Or i could be way off the mark & talking out of My ButtHole
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09 February 2006, 06:43 PM
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The Lambda doesn't have anything to do with it.
When underload on any positive boost the ECU does not refer to the Lambda sensor as it runs 'open loop' or at least thats how it should be mapped to operate, if not then the Lambda switching maps were wrong in the first place.
I suspect your boost parameters may have been corrected
I hope they didn't charge you for it !
Andy
When underload on any positive boost the ECU does not refer to the Lambda sensor as it runs 'open loop' or at least thats how it should be mapped to operate, if not then the Lambda switching maps were wrong in the first place.
I suspect your boost parameters may have been corrected
I hope they didn't charge you for it !
Andy
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