Remap - can they tell??
16 February 2006, 11:24 AM
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Remap - can they tell??
If i were to get my sti2.5 06 remapped would the Subaru main dealer be able to tell? or would they just think i got a fast one out of the factory?
In short - will it totally invalidate warranty on the car?
I get the feeling driving the car that there is a vast amount of potential there - not wanting to release all of it but think that 350BHP/350lbft torque has got to be a really viable option for a good, driveable car without too many mods.
In short - will it totally invalidate warranty on the car?
I get the feeling driving the car that there is a vast amount of potential there - not wanting to release all of it but think that 350BHP/350lbft torque has got to be a really viable option for a good, driveable car without too many mods.
16 February 2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
If i were to get my sti2.5 06 remapped would the Subaru main dealer be able to tell? or would they just think i got a fast one out of the factory?
In short - will it totally invalidate warranty on the car?
I get the feeling driving the car that there is a vast amount of potential there - not wanting to release all of it but think that 350BHP/350lbft torque has got to be a really viable option for a good, driveable car without too many mods.
In short - will it totally invalidate warranty on the car?
I get the feeling driving the car that there is a vast amount of potential there - not wanting to release all of it but think that 350BHP/350lbft torque has got to be a really viable option for a good, driveable car without too many mods.
Having said that, I would'nt think you're going to get 350/350 by mapping alone, even on a 2.5? You would need some hardware changes that will be rather obvious!
Let's hope they don't drive he thing in such a way as to realise that you have a "fast one"
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16 February 2006, 01:28 PM
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cheers for the info.
350/350 shouldnt be a huge stretch for a 2.5 tho with a few breathing mods that can easily be unbolted should the need arise to make it less obvious.
looking at a switcheable tek remap that would be switched back to shopping car mode when needed.
350/350 shouldnt be a huge stretch for a 2.5 tho with a few breathing mods that can easily be unbolted should the need arise to make it less obvious.
looking at a switcheable tek remap that would be switched back to shopping car mode when needed.
16 February 2006, 02:40 PM
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Eminently do-able. Don't think the select monitor will detect the remap, but as EcuTek gets more and more popular expect Subaru dealerships to know how to activate mapswitch 
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16 February 2006, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
If i were to get my sti2.5 06 remapped would the Subaru main dealer be able to tell? or would they just think i got a fast one out of the factory?
In short - will it totally invalidate warranty on the car?
I get the feeling driving the car that there is a vast amount of potential there - not wanting to release all of it but think that 350BHP/350lbft torque has got to be a really viable option for a good, driveable car without too many mods.
In short - will it totally invalidate warranty on the car?
I get the feeling driving the car that there is a vast amount of potential there - not wanting to release all of it but think that 350BHP/350lbft torque has got to be a really viable option for a good, driveable car without too many mods.
However if you do go this route and your engine/gearbox/drivetrain fails then i would imagine your warranty will not be worth the paper it is written on.
Perhaps the route you need to go is for a switchable map where you can go back to std at the flick of a button/switch. I would deffo tell your insurance co however!
16 February 2006, 07:45 PM
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Having a switchable map dosen't mean you keep the original map. You have two ecutek maps, one low tune the other high..! Not sure if the 06 can have switchable anyhow, I know my 05 couldn't. If you want economy keep it off boost..!
I recall reading that although the select monitor can't read the Ecutek code, it has a sort of anti-tamper programme that can show if (and when) the ecu was flashed..! Might be totally wrong with this, but sounds probable.
IMHO It comes down to how much the dealer/subaru want out of a claim..?
Out of interest, how many miles has you 06 done..? They don't really get going until they've seen >6k miles..!
I recall reading that although the select monitor can't read the Ecutek code, it has a sort of anti-tamper programme that can show if (and when) the ecu was flashed..! Might be totally wrong with this, but sounds probable.
IMHO It comes down to how much the dealer/subaru want out of a claim..?
Out of interest, how many miles has you 06 done..? They don't really get going until they've seen >6k miles..!
16 February 2006, 08:18 PM
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Your main dealer won't be able to detect a Ecutek remap on the Select Monitor tool that they have.
However, it would/may show a possible increase in boost pressure which might alert them. Obviously a different exhaust system will have alarm bells ringing straight away.
Some people on here have very "friendly"dealers who are ok with some mods. The problem as always is I.M. If and when you engine/gearbox etc goes pop, they're try and wriggle out of paying. Hell, they tried to get out of warranty cover on grey imports.
It's another reason I went down the JDM route. Mod away without a care in the world.
Kevin
Your main dealer won't be able to detect a Ecutek remap on the Select Monitor tool that they have.
However, it would/may show a possible increase in boost pressure which might alert them. Obviously a different exhaust system will have alarm bells ringing straight away.
Some people on here have very "friendly"dealers who are ok with some mods. The problem as always is I.M. If and when you engine/gearbox etc goes pop, they're try and wriggle out of paying. Hell, they tried to get out of warranty cover on grey imports.
It's another reason I went down the JDM route. Mod away without a care in the world.
Kevin
16 February 2006, 10:56 PM
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was talking to the guys at powerstation about your post - looks like you're in for a discount on the next work they do for you
i should have done an import but the last sti i had was import and got thoroughly p'd off with being treated as a second claass citizzen by the subaru dealer network. this time i thought i would get the real deal although prob payed more for the priv (definitely).
to be honest with hindsight i dont care too much about th ewarranty as i think the cars are pretty reliable anyway but dont want to take massive gambles on that. I have had back box and centre de-resonated section + green air filter done and all of these would not be a prob for my local dealer.
the remap is the thing tho.... i really want to get this done... it will be done....the thought of 320,330 etc bhp and torque, driveability is too much of a lure not to do it. Will probably join one of the group buys sessions somewhere.
from what you say Powerstation are "the" guys and from speaking with them I was certainly impressed (pleeeeease can i have discount too )
ps - done 800 miles on new car ... just re-learning how to drive it after 1 yr in a legacy spec B.
was talking to the guys at powerstation about your post - looks like you're in for a discount on the next work they do for you
i should have done an import but the last sti i had was import and got thoroughly p'd off with being treated as a second claass citizzen by the subaru dealer network. this time i thought i would get the real deal although prob payed more for the priv (definitely).
to be honest with hindsight i dont care too much about th ewarranty as i think the cars are pretty reliable anyway but dont want to take massive gambles on that. I have had back box and centre de-resonated section + green air filter done and all of these would not be a prob for my local dealer.
the remap is the thing tho.... i really want to get this done... it will be done....the thought of 320,330 etc bhp and torque, driveability is too much of a lure not to do it. Will probably join one of the group buys sessions somewhere.
from what you say Powerstation are "the" guys and from speaking with them I was certainly impressed (pleeeeease can i have discount too
)ps - done 800 miles on new car ... just re-learning how to drive it after 1 yr in a legacy spec B.
17 February 2006, 09:34 AM
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To be honest, I did the review with no thought of possible financial gain. I just wanted to give what I thought was a balanced and up front review of both companies. I work within the service industry and it's refreshing to have positive feedback instead of someone complaining (not that we get it wrong where I that work much ) If I can steer people to exceptional service, I'll do my bit in the same way that I hope people recommend the company I work for.
If you're concerned about warranty, perhaps you could buy a 3rd party one for peace of mind to cover the running gear. I don't know if you can have 2 policies running on one vehicle. I.M. could hardly say that the electric window stopped working because of a remap. No 3 piston coming through the bonnet may be different. However, from what I gather the newage in very reliable. Bit like the 3 year cover that Dixons sell you. How many times do the products they sell go wrong. It's just a numbers game in the end.
Get the right products from the right people and you're half way there.
Kevin
) If I can steer people to exceptional service, I'll do my bit in the same way that I hope people recommend the company I work for. If you're concerned about warranty, perhaps you could buy a 3rd party one for peace of mind to cover the running gear. I don't know if you can have 2 policies running on one vehicle. I.M. could hardly say that the electric window stopped working because of a remap. No 3 piston coming through the bonnet may be different.
However, from what I gather the newage in very reliable. Bit like the 3 year cover that Dixons sell you. How many times do the products they sell go wrong. It's just a numbers game in the end. Get the right products from the right people and you're half way there.
Kevin
17 February 2006, 09:44 AM
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To be honest, I did the review with no thought of possible financial gain. I just wanted to give what I thought was a balanced and up front review of both companies. I work within the service industry and it's refreshing to have positive feedback instead of someone complaining (not that we get it wrong where I that work much ) If I can steer people to exceptional service, I'll do my bit in the same way that I hope people recommend the company I work for.
If you're concerned about warranty, perhaps you could buy a 3rd party one for peace of mind to cover the running gear. I don't know if you can have 2 policies running on one vehicle. I.M. could hardly say that the electric window stopped working because of a remap. No 3 piston coming through the bonnet may be different. However, from what I gather the newage in very reliable. Bit like the 3 year cover that Dixons sell you. How many times do the products they sell go wrong. It's just a numbers game in the end.
Get the right products from the right people and you're half way there.
Kevin
) If I can steer people to exceptional service, I'll do my bit in the same way that I hope people recommend the company I work for. If you're concerned about warranty, perhaps you could buy a 3rd party one for peace of mind to cover the running gear. I don't know if you can have 2 policies running on one vehicle. I.M. could hardly say that the electric window stopped working because of a remap. No 3 piston coming through the bonnet may be different.
However, from what I gather the newage in very reliable. Bit like the 3 year cover that Dixons sell you. How many times do the products they sell go wrong. It's just a numbers game in the end. Get the right products from the right people and you're half way there.
Kevin
- Powerstation it is then... if engine goes bang then i may regret this but if it doesnt then it will truly be worth it with smiles per mile value.I hear that Ecutek are developing a switcheable map for the 06 MY that should be ready in a couple of months - maybe the right timing for me.
I agree with your sentiments on service. I run an ecommerce company selling lots of gear to average people and am delighted to receive good feedback - it always amazes me how much effort people put in to say thank you and how suprised they are that they got proper service. I guess in this day and age people are expecting cr@p service. We always try and suprise them by giving the service and flexibility that we would love as customers.
Personal recommendations (and a good price) are what I look for - i think most others do too.
17 February 2006, 09:55 AM
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I'm not technical enough to understand the benefits of a switchable map. The new BMW M5 for example. Why would you spend £60k on a car with that performance and drive it around with "Diet Coke" 400bhp and not on "Full Fat" milk 507bhp? It reminds me of that film that was robbed at the Oscars "Fast and Furious". There's always an extra stage it can go to. Flick the extra boost switch, then the nitros and laptop under the seat etc etc. What next, strap a Acme rocket to the back of it?
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17 February 2006, 10:03 AM
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Then the advanced multiplier will reduce from the maximum (16) and you'll performnce will drop to pensioner mode. 
As Harry Enfield said "Women and cars NO".
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As Harry Enfield said "Women and cars NO".
Only joking ladies
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