mattster12

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Hey all,
Just got myself a 99 uk scooby and think its the dogs *******,
I am looking to get it up to about 300bhp but want it to still be usable everyday, so it needs to be reliable.
Only mod so far is Magnex backbox. Where do i go from here.

P.S I live in south yorkshire so was thinking of using scoobyclinic what do you think?.

StiX

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Scoobyclinic have a great reputation on here, good choice.

I have a MY00, and also have a Magnex backbox.

Together with a JR Panel filter, Magnex centre decat (resonated) and Ninja Sports cat downpipe (passes MOT on its own) - I achieved 273bhp/273lbft after a Ecutek Tek3 remap @ Powerstation.

Have a look here, post #106

https://www.scoobynet.com/ecutek-tek-3-t492944p4.html



To get to 300bhp therefore, you would need to change the turbo from the standard TD04 to either a TD05 or a TD04 hybrid, or one of the VF range.(http://andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16307.html).

Don't need to change injectors or fuel pump for 300bhp.

Therefore you would need:

different turbo TD05/TD04 hybrid/VF23 etc.
decat/Sports Cat downpipe
decat centre
panel filter swap
remap.


A TD05 could get you up to 350bhp, but then you are in danger of nackering gearbox and you would need uprated fuel pump, clutch etc.

All the above IMHO btw!!

redragon

yep i agree with above scoobyclinic did mine
decat
td05
remap got me 310 bhp and reliability

talk to kev there m8 he sort it for you

MartynJ

300 bhp is possible out of the tdo4 with supporting mods...
Injectors , intercooler , headers , decat and this will produce 310bhp and 290 lbft at 1.2 bar....This spec makes an awesome road car with loads of power low down in the rev range.....
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2955582
Check it out for yourself

StiX

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I stand corrected!!

But, not too keen on spending big bucks.

To get 300+, I would have 2 spend to get diff. intercooler and headers??

Already have 440s due to MY00?

sharpydoo

Mmmm didnt now that was possible from td04, think ill be givin that a go

i also have a MY00 UK and am looking for 300bhp+, i already have a full decat and panel filter. i was going to port and wrap the standard headers myself, upgrade the uppipe and fuel pump. and was going to change the turbo, so if i change the injecters and the intercooler i wont need to change the turbo

any idea which injecters and intercooler to get?

would it be advisable to get the car remapped straight after these mods? or would it be safe for the time being?

rob.dren.1981

if you change the turbo from td04 to td05 , you must also change your ecu to suit , as the boost ignition and fuel settings will all be wrong . alternatively you could have a remapped chip fitted to give the correct settings or go apexi power fc.

sharpydoo

no, i mean will i need a remap staight after decat/injecters/intercooler/up pipe/ported headers/fuel pump. if i can get 300bhp+ from my td04 im going to keep it i no ill need a remap if i change the turbo

will i need a fmic or will an STi top mount do the trick?

DannyBoy007

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You'll need a remap if changing the injector, I wouldn't even want to drive it to the end road without a remap!!!

I've got a My99,
Magnex decat down pipe(Lagged) £190
5Zigen 3" center
5Zigen Back box £165
K&N induction kit £90
Ecutek 3 remap £500
Hybrid FMIC £350 including dump valve
VF28 Turbo £125 (Ebay)

£1420 and got 317 BHP on Powerstations rollers

Running standard injector (440's), standard fuel pump and standard headers.

You will need to uprate the clutch if going over 300 lbs as it proberly won't last very long.

I had a lightened flywheel fitted at the same time as an uprated excedy clutch to cope with this.

but please remember to sort out your brakes, very minimum your be looking at uprated discs and pads!!!

I changed over to set of gold brembo's off an 06sti, by the time I'd sold the brembo rears and my old 4 pots the change over cost me £40, I had to get the pcd redrilled which was £25 so it can cost as little as £65 to change to brand new brembo's (You nee to have the correct wheels)

New_scooby_04

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Hiya,

I'd get used to the car first before you consider any serious upgrades, otherwise you will be basing your decisions on what WE wanted out of our cars rather than what YOU want. You can't really have an informed opinion on what you want untill you're more used to the car. Be aware that modifying does have implications for insurance, maintenence and general running costs, not exactly cheap as std... also that you may detract from the car's resale value to the more general populus.

If you want a spec that will see you over 300 reliably, see the following thread.

https://www.scoobynet.com/api-and-br....html?t=527345

I would not stick with the TD04 for any more than 280 though- whatever your views on how much this little turbo can take, it just doesn't have the top end of the bigger turbos! I was also advised that intercooler upgrade was not worth it unless you're gonna take the time to fit one off the new age cars. Std one is ok to 300ish mark.

You WILL need a new uprated clutch sooner rather than later. Gearbox longevity may be an issue depending on how the car is mapped/how you drive. Brakes will also need some attention; good pads and discs will be adequate. Suspension modifications always money well spent too!

Ns04

Barnesy

If you want a good A to B car don't bother changing the turbo.
On my MY00 I had
Full decat (Group A down pipe and Afterburner exhaust)
Samco hoses
STI filter
TEK 3 by Andy F
276bhp and 296lbft of torque.
Car was rapid in the real world with no lag and the turbo coming in very early.
On some runs out others were no quicker with bigger turbos.

New_scooby_04

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Not sure I agree with this. A well mapped (as it would have been with Andy at the laptop) bigger turbo e.g. VF34/35-with appropriate exhaust mods, especially ported headers- makes for a very quick A-B car with very little, if any disadvantages in terms of spool up and lag.

Ns04

Barnesy

My point was you don't have to spend mega $$ to have a good quick car in the real world. Changing the turbo of course is going to make a better car but you will need deep pockets.

New_scooby_04

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I agree, you don't need a bigger turbo, but many seem to uprade to one not too long after doing the exhaust and remap mods and getting one from the outset saves having to pay a further remap fee!

Ns04

TonyBurns

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Martyn, how did you get that turbo to run 310bhp at 1.2 bar?
I take it that its not the original untouched turbo that came with your car? but a hybrid tdo4?

Tony

PS 1.2 bar is about 260ish normally

Brun

Well Lane

TonyBurns

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Ah that puts it into perspective

Tony

scoobysmiff

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you wont need to change the injectors for that power level, you have 440's on an MY99/00

i'd be looking at this:

RCMS down pipe, 2.5" will be ok at that power level but 3" will be better for later mods (it will happen)
matching size Revolution centre section and back box
Harvey Smith ported headers and option 2 up pipe
Sti/K&N pannel filter
Andy Forrest Td04 hybrid or s/h Td05/VF28
Remap
A better Intercooler would be nice as well just to keep things safe, a minimum of an Sti V8 but a FMIC (also from Harvey) would be ideal

i should imagine that you would easily make your target output with these mods and it will drive very well on the road.

Brun

My route to 300 on my Uk 99
Magnex down and centre with Ninja BB,
Walbro 255,
VF35,
Tek 3,
Hybrid FMIC,
K&N 57i,
....................think that's it!!!!
Anyway - this lot gave 313/300 at Scoobyclinic. The whole package is very easy to drive fast in the real world. Before the FMIC and the turbo i was just running 260/252 on a full decat and tek3 but IMO was not even near enough fast enough over and above the std bhp

sharpydoo

what did scoobyclinic charge to tweak the tek 3 when u changed the turbo and added fmic?

AndrewC

Brun - Have Well Lane changed to DynoDynamics rollers?

Anyone considered that those figures are on a new age rather than a classic.

I would say it's using more than 1.2bar midrange to get that torque, but I have seen similar figures from a new age before.

Andrew...

Brun

Can't remember to be honest - i'll see if i can find the receipt.

Dunno

What's the difference?

Tidgy

think pat charges £65 an hour then £75 an hour for rr time and just depends how much time is needed, not positive on this but think it should be there or there abouts and prob 1 or 2 hours time to sort it

andythejock01wrx

I aked Andy F about turbos when he was remapping my car last week.
He said "Go for the smallest one you can as long as it's giving you the power you're after". He reckoned that unless you want a lot more than the 280bhp you can get with the TD04 (or 300bhp with Andy's Hybrid TD04), then you're as well to stick with the standard turbo, which does give better driveability than the VF35, TD05 etc although he says these aren't toolaggy..

Andy