I have been itching to get my newage sti remapped for what seems a lifetime.
I am seriously considering a road map as done by Andy F or Bob Rawle after reading the recent informative thread comparing them to R/R mappers.

Cash is also a factor as i have been quoted 650.00 + vat ( R/R map)

Whats the deal with the above mappers as i dont think they are local to manchester.
How much do they charge (roughly) How do i make contact. Do they get their hands dirty ie- fitting a fuel pump.
Any info from their customers is very appreciated.

 

both andy and bob are tip-top. I'm trying to set up a group buy session in south wales before long if you fancy a drive.

 

As pippyrips says both are top notch. If you can get a few folks together Andy F will come down and map a few cars together. Hes got his own website, just do a quick search and you'll find the web address .

The reason its pricy is because for the first map you have to pay for the map licence, then subsequent remaps it should be cheaper (I think ).

Wolfie.

 

remaps for impreza's seem very expensive. You have to calculate how long you are planning on keeping the car for?

 

Cheers chaps, so is 650.00 the the going rate for a road map.

Pippy rips- thanks for the offer but south wales is like the other side of the world and i might fall off. its a bit too far tbh.

 

Based just outside Edinburgh (but also travels to garages etc):
AndyForrestPerformance

Been to him twice in a year now, great guy, knows his stuff. (and also gives you a free hat )

 

You wouldn't go wrong with either: arguably the two best Subaru mappers in the country. Both nice guys, both will fit parts for you (for the appropriate fee, of course )

Costs are significantly reduced if you start a GB, both are in-demand so getting numbers should be relatively easy.

The one thing you must not scrimp on is engine mapping; get this wrong and the implications are very costly!!!

I used Bob, as you know if you've read the RR vs Road thread.

The car was transformed!

Ns04

 

Thats swung it then.

 

I`m in need of a remap.... if anybody is interested in getting together to lower the costs then let me know.

I`m 30mins from huddersfield, 20 mins from sheffield.

I did contact Andy F concerning a remap and he said £550 for remap plus expenses for the travelling he`d be doing.
Think prices are plus vat.

 

Yep interestedwhen are you looking at geting the map done.

 

Inside joke (He left it in me car when mapping earlier this week)

 

slighly off topic I had my tek 3 done earlier in the year and the CEL came on. So went back and had CEL fix which lasted a week and now the CEL is back again!! Because I have the licence now would a 2nd remap from bob or andy be cheaper if so how much and could they map out the cel?

 

Andy Forrest's website is a great read. A lot of really good info on mapping and differences between model years. Link on Gaz's post above.

 

Second and subsequent maps are circa £200 + vat. Have you changed anything after the remap that might activate the CEL?

Don't think you'd want to "map out the cel", just in case there is something wrong with the engine.

 

tbh the only mappers i'd trust are bob rawle, andyf, pavlo, richard bulmer and pat herborn (who did map mine and i love the pops, bangs and flames it spitts out )

 

Andy F is coming to Luton Airport on 30th November if your interested..., you can save on you travelling costs as well........

 

A different maper will not be able to see the re-map as it is locked (intelectual property rights). The new mapper will have to start from scratch so the price will reflect on the time spent...may be more than £200 quid.

Nunjaguppy.......it depends which CEL was mapped out. P0420 de-cat CEL can be permanently wiped others can be re-set but not maped around (EGT CEL for example)

Shaun

 

I've used both now and drove to Scotland and Swindon to have the car sorted. In West Yorkshire so distance I'm willing to travel speaks volumes to how high I regard both.

 

Many people trevel many miles to have Bob or Andy map and with good reason.
As NS04 says, mapper choice is more important than the mods you've had done..

IMO anyone who thinks scoob mapping is too expensive hasn't had the pleasure of driving a well mapped scoob..

 

MAP IT YOR SELF ! ITS NOT A BLACK ART YOU KNOW.. read up on here, have det cans and apexi com ? and a wideband lambda sensor, its not that hard a few goes up the psi add feul. .5 more to no3 piston and away you go, or just biro it , tunners make to much nowa days, plus mappimg on road with some person saying stop go on the road at 90 in 3rd is your thing then go for it, personley if road mapping go for the simon,jolly green monster, its eligal on the road, map on rolling road only,

 

Powerstation (bob rawle) mapped my mates UK sti newage today, 335bhp, he is a very happy bunny.

 

This must be a windup.

 

bob r
You can have the standard ecu in your car remapped and achieve the same results as with an ecutek remap for half the price by having it done with openecu software instead.

With an ecutek remap you have to buy an ecutek license and this is about half the total cost. Having the license put on your ecu means it is then locked to ecutek. The mapper that does the mapping work puts his map on your ecu. He keeps a copy of it on his computer.

If you go to another mapper for any further adjustment then he will not be able to see the map that the first mapper created. Ecutek software cannot read the map off the ecu. The second mapper will have to start from scratch with a map of his own. The only difference now is that you don't need to buy the license because it is already on the ecu. It has to be a complete remap unless you go back to the original mapper.

With an openecu remap you do not need to buy a license, this means you only have to pay for the actual mapping. Result = approx 50% cost saving. Also, it does not lock the ecu.

If you need further adjustments in future then it is possible for any openecu mapper to read the ecu and adjust that map directly. The option to simply replace it with a second mappers base map is also possibe if preferred.

If you are looking for someone to do this then get in touch with Andrew Carr. He is a very experienced mapper based in the north west, he maps subarus, evos and skylines as well as rally cars, also does power fc, gems, motec etc. Try sending a PM to AndrewC. I'm sure he'd fit your fuel pump too.

I'm not trying to knock any of the ecutek mappers or anyone who has paid for an ecutek remap, just pointing out there is an alternative and it will save you money.

It is possible to remap your own car yourself if that's what you want to do, but to do a newage impreza you need the cable, software, a wideband and det cans as a minimum to start with so that lot will add up to roughly the cost of an openecu remap, ie there's no real cost saving. You will need to learn a lot before attempting to make any changes, you need to know the impact of changing things and you will need to know realistically what you can expect from your car with it's current turbo, exhaust, injectors etc and you need to know when you are approaching their limits. It's not something to be taken lightly, and can cost you dearly if it all goes pear shaped.

On the other hand you might see it as a challenge

 

hi new to posting on here excellent site i have just bought a second hand ecu witch has been remaped with ecutek do i need to pay for the license agian or do i only need to pay for a remap

 

For info, Ecutek need not lock the ECU, it can be left accessable if required.
Also I'm not sure about the 50% cost saving you refer to as I have not seen any openecu mappers charging only £250.

I thought Andrew Carr was Ecutek mapping 99/00 cars for Cotcomp ? I didn't know he also doing openecu mapping ?

Andy