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Old 20 December 2006 | 08:46 PM
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what is the max boost this turbo can produce to the red line


and does the manifold need to be modified to fit it?


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Old 21 December 2006 | 10:28 AM
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On my STI3 no modification was required except for the oil feed pipe - not sure about the max boost.

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Mine runs to 1.7, not seen anyone run much more
Old 21 December 2006 | 02:27 PM
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max ive heard of is 1.77, makes about 370, roller prepared car though.
Old 21 December 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
Mine runs to 1.7, not seen anyone run much more

1.7 is that on the Apexi now? most i ever saw was 1.61 with the Link on a cold day.

Hope she holds together for ya mate.
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Not all these turbos are the same so you have to be clear what you are comparing. Also what capacity engine is it on?
A TD05-06 20Gs on my 95 WRX Wagon 2 litre is doing 421 bhp (355 ft.lbs.) at 1.6 bar at 6,600 rpm, V-Power plus 2 mls/litre NF. Sigma ECU. The turbo has run up to 1.9 bar but there is no point as it just creates heat and less power. I doubt there is any point exceeding 1.7 bar maximum on any of these turbos and subject to the engine it may be better running quite a bit less boost.

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Old 21 December 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Andy F 20g with a bit of porting.
1.66 peak on Optimax + NF = 380 x 360 @ Powerstation, or 407 x 360 @ Well Lane.
I believe the first one!

Lovely gutsy turbo that is very drivable if you keep it revving, easy with an Sti and a bit of attitude.
Should add this is with a stack of supporting mods (all external) and an Apexi mapped by AndyF.

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Old 21 December 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by STI Craig
what is the max boost this turbo can produce to the red line

The turbo itself will run to 2 bar but the engine may not like it !

With a very strong dose of octane booster on a fully optimised car I have seen 440bhp produced at 1.47bar.

One thing to be aware of is that there are a lot of TD05-20G replicas out there, I recommend making sure it has a genuine Mitsubishi part number on it before parting with your cash !

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Old 23 December 2006 | 12:42 AM
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With a very strong dose of octane booster on a fully optimised car I have seen 440bhp produced at 1.47bar.
Actually it was 15% Methanol if you remember.
Old 23 December 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Am running 1.77 peak on mine.

Best dyno result I've seen is 385 flywheel. Best result ever was 311 WHP.

Pulls like a train very nice.

Mapped by Powerstation.
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Here's the 20G compressor map. It shows where it's most efficient, and where it flows most air. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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Originally Posted by harvey
Actually it was 15% Methanol if you remember.
Correct Harvey, I recall you were there to witness that particular 440bhp result. Methanol is an exceptionally cheap and effective octane booster.

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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Correct, an exceptionally cheap and effective octane booster.

Andy

And 15% would be considered a Strong Dose
Old 23 December 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Well, not really , not this year anyway
Old 23 December 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
The turbo itself will run to 2 bar but the engine may not like it !

With a very strong dose of octane booster on a fully optimised car I have seen 440bhp produced at 1.47bar.

One thing to be aware of is that there are a lot of TD05-20G replicas out there, I recommend making sure it has a genuine Mitsubishi part number on it before parting with your cash !

Andy
thanks for the info andy.

i think i should have no problem getting a good quality 20G as its you im going to buy it from lol
Old 23 December 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Look out for 'cheap' offers via PM
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What would one of these on a 2.5 conversion do, mapped to 1 bar to stop by pistons frying?
Old 25 December 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mr fix it
What would one of these on a 2.5 conversion do, mapped to 1 bar to stop by pistons frying?
~300bhp
Old 25 December 2006 | 11:45 AM
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It will depend to some extent on what heads you have. STi heads '97 > breath quite well, and I would expect 320 >330bhp if it's all working well.

Uk heads would be lower.


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Old 25 December 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Its a type R STI my99 with uprated fuel pump plus regulator, RCM oil cooler, RCM induction, RCM superlight flywheel, ASP 3" exhaust (with or without CAT!), 2.5 STI block with standard internals. I hope to get about 330 on the standard turbo, Was looking at a TD05 20G with some 550 or 750(?)s for closer to 375-400 bhp.
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Andy, How did Craig Muir get on with the 20g i gave him for his HKS 2.2conversion? (AWD) He reckoned it was giving 420 running 1.3? Think he's turned it up a wee bit now though. Was going to keep for my 'built' 2.5 but decided to go for either a 06-49 or 321t. Just wander if i made the right decision for the hills!

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Old 26 December 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Yes it went well Doug. Don't think he is over 400bhp though as he is still on the std 22B tmic.

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