sparks sti

Hey people of snet, advice required...

As per title which one should I go for. I hear the hybrid is good for 700 hp and is relatively cheap.

How much difference will I notice between the hybrid and the APS DR725 or the Hyperflow Monster fmic.. With the other two over 1k in price is the difference worth it for a road car?

Thoughts please..

dynamix

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700hp in a road car ?

Are you sure you want that power - What is the engine/turbo spec?

APS DR725 and Hyperflow are reportedly the best out there.

sparks sti

No no no, i have approx 500hp, but the hybrid is rated to 700hp I hear.

dynamix

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Are you running a TMIC at the moment?

sparks sti

I have the engine at the mo, i'm buying the bits so not built as yet.

swifty.....!

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perrin is a good bit of kit https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...c-02-07-a.html

Aztec Performance Ltd

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https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...d-gt-spec.html

gpssti4

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If you're going for 500bhp, then the cost of the front mount is the least of your worries! To build a reliable engine that runs at 500bhp is going to cost a lot. I wouldn't worry about the cost of the front mount, just buy the best there is or what's been recommended on here!

MrRA

APS DR525 FMIC would be the best choice for you IMO, it is slightly smaller than the DR725 and perfectly suited to your level of bhp. Check out THIS thread. The owner was running a Tomei 2.2 stroker kit and eventually fitted the 525 FMIC with good results, with similar power levels to you.

dazdavies

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I'm running an autobahn88 one it coped with 360 bhp for a year and is now coping very nicely with circa 500bhp on a 2.5 now.

Daz

Scoobyslammed

My hybrid FMIC I had on my Type R 2.35 did the job fine... excellent value for money...
Really brought the charge temps down and fitted really well

p1prodrive

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hybrid is what i have now but i will be going with a

1. lateral combo
2. aps dr725
3. hks or the likes

not cheap but the best out there !

dynamix

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what were the before and after charge temps ?

Scoobyslammed

Dunno, the 2 litre let go before I could check lol...
Decided on a 2.35 re-build and a fmic was a must... along with a MD321T... Fastest car I've ever driven... a real weapon...

Rebuild thread:-

https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...diy-style.html

shadower

all i can say is im running 480bhp with the hyperflow front mount and its great

dynamix

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how can you say it really brought the charge temps down then ?

Sorry but, you truth be told, you have no idea of what they were before or after. Great advert.... not.

dazdavies

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Blimey that was an unnecessary outburst. Calm youself down and go and make yourself a nice cuppa.

Back on topic. After a very hard run with my rotated GT30R fed 2.5 the intercooler to throttle body pipe is cold to touch with no heat in it at all. The autobahn88 cooler is coping very very nicely indeed.

Sorry I cant be more technical than that but the power speaks for itself.

p1prodrive

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good old Daz

matt

dynamix

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just stating facts really - sorry it wasnt an outburst

DaveBlueRA

LAteral front mount kit i shighly reccommened

dynamix

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Got any details on it Dave?

p1prodrive

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Lateral combo is a combination of a alloy Radiator and alloy fmic all in one.

great set up

Scoobyslammed

Before the 2 litre lump let go on the GEMS ECU... in the hot weather it used to go through water spray like mad... which is thought 1 of the reasons it let go was due to det... tmic couldn't cope... the standard STi top mount was on its limits with the spec before I did my bit to the car...
After we went 2.35, MD321T and then on to the Adaptronics ECU on a hot summer day the temps were really good...
My mapper was very happy with the charge temps, which proved the Hybrid FMIC was a worthy investment... and easily coped...
The Hybrid kit is great value for money, fits well and does its job... whats your problem...? If you wanna spend 1K on a named FMIC go for it...
For what I spent on my old Type R... I thought it was a great spec... Helps if you can DIY....
I think from memory... when I bought the car... the Gems ecu was mapped for the water spray to activate at around the 32 deg c... It needed topping up everytime I went out in it...
On the Adaptronics, we knocked the activation temps down to 30 deg c...
You know what, I can't remember ever topping the water spray bottle up... I think around July time while out mapping at most we were seeing 22 deg on full chat...
Its not everyday you have your car linked up to the laptop to monitor everything lol...
So... Hybrid may not be the best out there... but I won mine on e-bay for £190 quid, and sold the old STi top mount for £60...
There is no doubt, the fmic was the was to go...

dynamix

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I dont mean to be pedantic but how do you (or the mapper) know the charge temps?

I am just interested in what factual information you have about this FMIC because this place is so full of cr$p about you need x y and z without any subtantive evidence to back it up.

The hybrid FMIC is, I am sure very good, but how good ?

Scoobyslammed

The lap top was plugged into the ECU... my mapper could see everything that was going on including charge temps...
I didn't write the temps down... was too busy looking where I was going.
His comments were that the temps was very good and it was doing the job it was supposed to...

dynamix

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So it has a charge sensor as standard ?

I wasnt aware tat any subaru did although I may be wrong.

They do, however, have intake temp sensor which is measured at the MAF.

Scoobyslammed

At near a 500bhp spec... there wasn't much left standard...
See the intercooler pipe that goes to the T/B... I had a air temp sensor fitted to the hybrid pipe work... The sensor was then calibrated...
My Type R run Adaptronics management... which is fully mapable...
When your pluged into the ECU you can see everything, all settings etc...
EVEN CHARGE TEMPS...

Charge temp sensor is Not a standard item... the car was not a standard spec....!!! lol
It didn't run a maf sensor... was running map sensor...




Back onto the subject, I cant see why the Hybrid is not upto the job for 500bhp...???
Buy a Hybrid fmic and spend the money on a properly built engine...
If your eagel eyed you'll see the maf sensor is still fitted.... but not pluged in... really, I needed to get abit of pipe made up and binned off the maf... never mind...

dynamix

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great set up

sorry for doubting you but so many people here are so full of xxxx or dont know the difference between intake or charge temps.

i am still trying to decide on my FMIC for my new project .... all information is useful

WUZ

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STi's have an Air Inlet temp sensor as standard and this can be used...............but it needs a little jiggery - pokery!

Russell

dynamix

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how ?