joz8968

iTrader: (13)

My question is in the title... Is it okay to get the Commander at a later date?

Also, are the Commanders a universal 'one-size-fits-all' item i.e. not bespoke to the different PFC's

Thanks

John

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

It will work without a commander!! But the commanders are ecu specific and they will be hard to get hold of

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Thanks.

Thing is, even if I was to have the Commander, am I correct in thinking that the ONLY parameter I SHOULD be altering (if I wanted to, that is) is the boost pressure? - and that would, invariably, be to turn it down, not up!

Or does it offer other useful parameters that the user is 'allowed' to adjust? Obviously, I would never alter the maps.

Thanks, John.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

The commander can be used to fully map the apexi ecu !! The commander can also be used to moniter knock and about 14 other things but it will moniter any 4 you choose

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Yeah for sure - but once it had been mapped by the professional mapper, there's no way I'd want to touch those maps with a bargepole!... Or does the mapper have to have the Commander present to map the Power FC in the first place?!?

mike h

iTrader: (10)

A new map is usually done by plugging a laptop in to the apexi PFC.

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Ah, that's what I thought... Therefore, I'm not that necessarily bothered by not having the Commander - I'd be happy to simply go by the programmed CEL to monitor any possible knock/IDC/MAP issues...

Great, thanks for all the input guys .

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I assumed by your post you were wanting the commander to map or tweak your own car ??? People usually map the apexi with a laptop as the commander was the old way of doing it! But the commander cant be locked so if you mess on with it you mess on with anything that can affect your cars ecu

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Think again if you play with the commander you can blow your engine up

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

You've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly the angle I'm comng from, hence I'm not bothered about the Commander - I don't like the idea of me accidentally buggering up the maps and knackering the engine!... If the Commander's not there, then I can't!!!

I just needed to make sure the PFC physically worked correctly WITHOUT the Commander present, hence the original question ;-)

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

The commander is worth having, just don't mess on with it as its excellent for Knock and it can do loads more. Just like I said it can't be password protected but if a mate decides to mess on with it a punch in the face protects it quite well

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Other than monitoring for knock using the Commander's display, can you alter anything on the Commander to alleviate it e.g. ignition retard/richer fuelling? Or is it only the boost parameter that can be be altered by turning it down? What's available to the user to alter?

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

If you know what you are doing the commander is there to map the apexi ecu !! As it was there before software was sorted The comander is like a SECS machine as it monitors that many things and you will have to press quite a few buttons before you have to worry I was just making you aware that messing on with it will change ay map or settings that is in the ECU

andypugh2000

I use mine to remove timing when I get stuck and have to fillup with crap fuel...

As well as boost, pops and bangs etc, these can all be adjusted IF you know what you are doing..

AP