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Old 08 July 2008 | 11:56 PM
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Anyone have any idea who sells these


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Old 09 July 2008 | 12:01 AM
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API supplied and fitted mine, however most specialists would stock them I would imagine.
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Carl Davey does them........and the qualtiy is first class!

Carl Davey, specialist Subaru Impreza parts supply

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just got mine from lateral perfomance.
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I got mine from Lateral.
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Another for Carl Davey
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the new Gizzmo thermal gaskets are real neat as you don't need any extra gaskets, spacers, etc...........
direct replacement for O.E. set

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Got Carls ones for my newage, but does anyone know the size of the bolts required?

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the new Gizzmo thermal gaskets are real neat as you don't need any extra gaskets, spacers, etc...........
direct replacement for O.E. set

alyn
hi alyn, have you got any specs/pics/prices for these please
Old 10 July 2008 | 08:42 PM
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hi alyn, have you got any specs/pics/prices for these please

Here's a link to them, not much info, but some.

Gizzmo electronics Pty Ltd, specialists in performance ecu upgrades/chips, dyno tuning, performance products including launch controllers, shiftlamps, vtec controllers, boost controllers, IBC, MSIBC, CAMFC, phenolic gaskets, apexi, apex, aftermarket
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Looked at doing this myself but was then told not to bother as got water injection - if temp is problem, just up the spray...makes sense.

Bet its a wench getting the bolts out once manifold off?
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dont have spray and anyway it wouldnt cool the intake manifold which need to be as cool as possible why cool your air with a great big front/top mount/spray then send it to a red hot intake manifold...pointless
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they do reduce the heat build up in the inlet manifold - link here

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dont have spray and anyway it wouldnt cool the intake manifold which need to be as cool as possible why cool your air with a great big front/top mount/spray then send it to a red hot intake manifold...pointless
Na m8, you not follow proper like, I've got intercooler water spray (external) which might help a little to cool induction but also water injection (internal) which def does cool induction and will also cool the inlet manifold as the whole charge and some of the surroundings are cooled during water evap.
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[QUOTE=swisstonihasher;7999871]Na m8, you not follow proper like, I've got intercooler water spray (external) which might help a little to cool induction but also water injection (internal) which def does cool induction and will also cool the inlet manifold as the whole charge and some of the surroundings are cooled during water evap.[/QUOTE

Ok but you said spray not water injection
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Originally Posted by swisstonihasher
Looked at doing this myself but was then told not to bother as got water injection - if temp is problem, just up the spray...makes sense.

Bet its a wench getting the bolts out once manifold off?

Think he did!
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Check me words, says "water injection - just up the spray" its right as its still spraying inside...anyway dont matter...

Wonder what the manifold spacers will do temp wise to induction, real hard to prove any drop that near to combustion area.
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OKKKKK its my eyesight
but i still think... No I Know Anything and everything you can do to cool the intake charge will definatly help
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I was told these allow for a bett fuel/air mixture as well, any truth in that?
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Yep,the colder the better! Im making my own at the mo,have also made some header tank spacers to stop the heat transfering to that side of the inlet manifold. Im also going to take the throttle body coolant pipes off and join them together,as this stops the hot water heating up the intake gasses as they pass through the throttle body. Total cost? £15! (and a bit of time!)
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I wonder what the difference between the gizzmo and the carl davey ones would be? ones 3 times thicker than the other!
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Yep,the colder the better! Im making my own at the mo,have also made some header tank spacers to stop the heat transfering to that side of the inlet manifold. Im also going to take the throttle body coolant pipes off and join them together,as this stops the hot water heating up the intake gasses as they pass through the throttle body. Total cost? £15! (and a bit of time!)
Been on the sher---berts but yep, def disconnect the de-icer hosing from the inlet manifold - I did that ages ago, no probs but cant afford to run in winter plus she mad enough in dry weather let alone snow.
You is best get bigger intercooler at end of day if big power as inlet manifold spacers just stopping heat from engine core to inlet...this heat is still somewhere but not on induction, better to have it reduced in some way, spacers dont do that, water injection or FMIC helps.
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Originally Posted by swisstonihasher
Been on the sher---berts but yep, def disconnect the de-icer hosing from the inlet manifold - I did that ages ago, no probs but cant afford to run in winter plus she mad enough in dry weather let alone snow.
You is best get bigger intercooler at end of day if big power as inlet manifold spacers just stopping heat from engine core to inlet...this heat is still somewhere but not on induction, better to have it reduced in some way, spacers dont do that, water injection or FMIC helps.
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mit , id be intrested to know what your maiking yours out of ? as there pretty exspencive for what they actually are .
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I did extensive testing with insulating materials some years back; a phenolic grade insulator was found to prevent the onset of heat soak longer than the equivalent thickness tufnol and had suffered less creep.
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Im using 10mm tufnol,got a 300mmx300mmx10mm sheet online for £15 delivered. There's enough to make two sets,so if i mess one up,theres loads left. I've just got myself an abro file,which will make things easier,also have a dremel to 'fine tune' the finish,when i get round to it!
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Originally Posted by mit
Im using 10mm tufnol,got a 300mmx300mmx10mm sheet online for £15 delivered. There's enough to make two sets,so if i mess one up,theres loads left. I've just got myself an abro file,which will make things easier,also have a dremel to 'fine tune' the finish,when i get round to it!
and if you don't mess it up you can make a set for me lol . .
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I did extensive testing with insulating materials some years back; a phenolic grade insulator was found to prevent the onset of heat soak longer than the equivalent thickness tufnol and had suffered less creep.
Chances are that the phenolic insulator was a different grade MADE by Tufnol Ltd. "Tufnol" is used rather like Hoover.

How does making the phenolic insulator thinner, avoid having to use OEM gaskets to seal - unless they were never needed in the first place with the thicker gaskets made by Carl?

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the phenolic 'spacer' is actually an isulator gasket.................(well the Gizzmo ones are anyhows)


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