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Old 26 October 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Unhappy Oh dear.. did this today..

Totally my fault, i pulled out in front of a large merc this afternoon, i just didn't see it. What a complete numpty.

Had a look underneath, and looks as if if f*cked the front shock, drive shaft and streering rods for the right hand side, as well as the cosmectics...

Suggestions on repair... if at all? Any coachworks guys on here?

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Old 26 October 2008 | 07:33 PM
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unlucky mate... looks expensive, best regards
Old 26 October 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Unluck fella Dno what to say really, take it your insured! Your gonna loose your NCB anyway as i assume the Merc driver will be claiming so just let your insurance take care of it (make sure it goes to a reputible repairer), as long as no one was hurt its just a piece of metal!!!!!! Sh*t happenens
Old 26 October 2008 | 07:40 PM
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if it goes thru insurance you can say bye bye to your car, they will prob class it as a write off due to the damage.

price to repair it will most likely be more than book price of the car.
Old 26 October 2008 | 07:44 PM
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That's what i fugured.... i'll find out shortly no doubt.
Old 26 October 2008 | 07:46 PM
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7 years careful driving down the toilet... Still can't believe it actually happened... should have stayed home today.....
Old 26 October 2008 | 07:53 PM
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only way around it mate is to claim for the other drivers car and not claim for yours.

just need to save up and pay for your own damage as your car looks 2 good 2 scrap
Old 26 October 2008 | 07:55 PM
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6 posts and not even a T-cut joke

looks expensive, i would prob just let theinsurance take care of it. dont think you will lose all 7 years ncb (if you have them)
Old 26 October 2008 | 07:56 PM
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That might be a good option i think, i'm just hoping that there is no chassis damage... or A pillar. What's the best way to check.. can this be inspected on sight? Or do i need it jigged?

The car might only be underwritten for £6 but i'm into it by at least that figure.

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just looks like component damage to be honest, open the bonnet and take a look to see if the inner wing is bent creased??

also look at the sill/floor to see if its flat or creased.

new door and wing, prob suspension strut and suspension arm. maybe new steering rack if its been damaged?
Old 26 October 2008 | 08:16 PM
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As far as i coul'd see, the inner wing was fine. Also the floor pan seemed OK.

I think the strut brace probably saved the shock being ripped out of the mounts....
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Did you pay for protected NCB when you took insurance out? If so, then no worries (most operate something like 2 or 3 accidents in a 5-7 year period before you lose any NCB.

If not, then if you do claim, you normally will revert back to 2 years NCB at next renewal date. Bummer I know.

Still, I'm certain that your increase in premium will be no where near of what it will cost to do all the repairs, so put in the claim to see what the company says... As if it is a write off in their eyes, you don't have to accept it, and can repair it privately, without claiming.

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errrm i was advised by the broker not to bother with ncbp because in his words "they'd only make it up in the premium!" never mind though, i'm told i'll lose 4 years maximum, but will find out tomorrow.

Friend of mine works for solus coachworks and reckons he could fix it i on a weekend lol. Just need to source some parts for it now! Do you know where i could find a schematic for the drive shafts, or undeside of the car, I.E steering rack and suspension etc.. that way i could identify all the parts that i need. They never made a haynes for these cars.

I may as well first see whether they are willing to fix it as part of my claim, as i i have to claim for the merc anyway!

Thanks for the responses.
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Obviously you would have had to pay a bit extra on your prem. for PNCB but it's only about 50-70 quid and would've been worth taking. After all, since when would you claim for repairs totalling less than c £100?! (For one thing the excess would be higher anyhow lol).

Well yes, if the insurance companies find you're at blame (which they will) then obviously your insurer will pay out to the 3rd party... BUT it's up to the 3rd party to initially put in a claim to his company! If you don't intend to claim on your car, then make sure you make that clear to your broker!, as legally you have to notify the broker/insurer of an accident (unless you had (slightly underhand) sorted it out amicably with the 3rd party - obviously though, not in this case).

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Not a pretty site

Hope its back on the road soon
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apalmer, tried sending you a personal email of a ZIP file of workshop manual PDFs for MY99/00 but I dont think it sent. My PC and ISP are prob not good enough to do so lol (file is about 76Mb!) .

I'll try again tomoz using my work PC via the company's ethernet LAN connection ...

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Old 27 October 2008 | 01:38 AM
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glad your ok matey, car looks like it'll cost a fair bit to repair

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Originally Posted by joz8968
Obviously you would have had to pay a bit extra on your prem. for PNCB but it's only about 50-70 quid and would've been worth taking. After all, since when would you claim for repairs totalling less than c £100?! (For one thing the excess would be higher anyhow lol).

Well yes, if the insurance companies find you're at blame (which they will) then obviously your insurer will pay out to the 3rd party... BUT it's up to the 3rd party to initially put in a claim to his company! If you don't intend to claim on your car, then make sure you make that clear to your broker!, as legally you have to notify the broker/insurer of an accident (unless you had (slightly underhand) sorted it out amicably with the 3rd party - obviously though, not in this case).
Cost me £46 to protect NCB but i have 11yrs NCB and been with directline for the last 7yrs I pay £445 with 3 points and modes noted. 29 yrs old

So if he as 7yrs and depending on age may cost a few quid more then £50-£70.
I'm sure he would have protected if he new.
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apalmer, tried sending you a personal email of a ZIP file of workshop manual PDFs for MY99/00 but I dont think it sent. My PC and ISP are prob not good enough to do so lol (file is about 76Mb!) .

I'll try again tomoz using my work PC via the company's ethernet LAN connection ...
Thanks mate, have you got access to an ftp site, if not, use a free one like sharefile.com. I could grab it from there Think you can sign up for a 30 day trial or something.

I measured the engine bay cross references last night and there is an 8mm difference from corner to corner. Given that the car leaves the factory with a 3mm tollerance, that really isn't that bad and could have been there already. Goijng to have to rip the panels of to see the full extent of the damage.
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Originally Posted by scooby1doo1
Cost me £46 to protect NCB but i have 11yrs NCB and been with directline for the last 7yrs I pay £445 with 3 points and modes noted. 29 yrs old

So if he as 7yrs and depending on age may cost a few quid more then £50-£70.
I'm sure he would have protected if he new.
really wish i hadn't been such a tight *** now and opted for protection, i just despise insurance companies.. Still should have stayed in doors though lol.
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Bad luck mate. Thinking about what you said earlier about the strut brace, it could of transfered the impact over to the other side. The only way to know would be to get the car on a jig. If you claimed for the car you could always take a flyer and buy it off the insurance co, it may be an easy/cheap fix using 2nd hand parts.
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Originally Posted by apalmer
...i just despise insurance companies...
Yep, no argument here


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...Still should have stayed in doors though lol...
Thing is, when you have an accident, you always say to yourself "Damn, why did I go out at that time, etc etc...".

I know it's no comfort to you, but you just have to be philosophical about these things (it's the only way to stop you from going out of your mind lol...)
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Sorry to see your motor like that mate, sorry to get off the subject though, but can i ask are those the godspeed brakes on the front of motor??? I can see your using the standard calipers. Cheers.
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Use your insurance-thats what it's for! IF they wanna write it off, tell them that you want the salvage. You can then repair with the money they paid you oout to write it off.
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Right. Sent you that large ZIP file of the manual PDFs... Said that it's sent etc. If you don't receive it okay by tonight (plenty of time for it get through), then let me know and I'll sign up to ShareFile.com and go form there.

However, I do have Terrapin FTP, but obviously I need these three bits of info from you:

*Your FTP site URL
*Login info
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Originally Posted by DazP1-956
Sorry to see your motor like that mate, sorry to get off the subject though, but can i ask are those the godspeed brakes on the front of motor??? I can see your using the standard calipers. Cheers.
Yeah they're the godspeed jobbies, i did a write up on them in the brakes section not too long ago. Have a look back a month or so in the posts and you'll find it there
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Yep, no argument here




Thing is, when you have an accident, you always say to yourself "Damn, why did I go out at that time, etc etc...".

I know it's no comfort to you, but you just have to be philosophical about these things (it's the only way to stop you from going out of your mind lol...)
The guy driving the flatbed mentioned a friend of his losing his legs from a similar accident..... when you look at it like that, its just a piece of metal i guess.. i nice piece though
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Originally Posted by JONNY_693
Bad luck mate. Thinking about what you said earlier about the strut brace, it could of transfered the impact over to the other side. The only way to know would be to get the car on a jig. If you claimed for the car you could always take a flyer and buy it off the insurance co, it may be an easy/cheap fix using 2nd hand parts.
good point, i hadn't thought of that..

I can't visualise behind the rotors, what else would have snapped to send the wheel at that angle, i was thinking wishbones or something. I won't know i have a problem until it starts crabbing, jig would probably be adviseable.
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Originally Posted by apalmer
The guy driving the flatbed mentioned a friend of his losing his legs from a similar accident..... when you look at it like that, its just a piece of metal i guess.. i nice piece though
Some slightly drunk bloke came flying round a corner and understeered his Golf Mk.2 into my, at the time, beloved Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evolution. He hit the front at where the bonnet meets the O/S wing and pushed the dash back in towards the seat on that side! Luckily for me, of course, is that it was LHD!... Otherwise I'm convinced I would've lost use of my leg/s, or even been killed.

As you say, so long as no one was hurt is the main thing. After all, the twisted metal CAN at least be repaired or replaced.

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dont think that needs "jiging" my self mate, new panels obviously door and wing repair the bumper, id advise all new suspension components that side as you dont want it wrong or playing up once it is all together!
hub,knuckle,bearings, lower arm, strut etc ask your local subaru dealer for a print out of the suspension then just mark up all the bits that are bent broken or need replacing as you strip yours down. dont forget a decent geom check!


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