Oh s***t, that sounds like a big end!!!
#1
Oh s***t, that sounds like a big end!!!
There's a horrible knocking coming from deep in the bowels of me 2.0 WRX @01engine with 56k on the clock. It's only just started so I'm hoping it's not done too much damage yet. I'm considering me options, re-build, or a 2.5 short motor, etc.....
It's running 330 with supporting mods, but if I've gotta pull it and re-build it I might as well bite the bullet and go for a forged re-build as I would like to up it to around 400. Whats the general consensus boys & girls?
It's running 330 with supporting mods, but if I've gotta pull it and re-build it I might as well bite the bullet and go for a forged re-build as I would like to up it to around 400. Whats the general consensus boys & girls?
#2
bite the bullet mate! re build it rite. especially if you want that bhp.
i've just bought a 2.5 forged closed deck from roger clark. hoping its worth every penny but it defo expensive.
for engine, arp head bolts, gaskets, oil pump, water pump, sump, oil cooler modine, belts, filters oils etc i was 3200 all in.
my mate went for a nitrided crank, forged rods and mahle pistons, came with oil cooler modine, pump head gaskets he was 1700 all in.
i think if your going the distance chuck in the 2.5 i've heard on here you need to machine out the standard heads for the 2.5 or if over rev'd the pistons will hit. but then someone said he fitted 1.6 mm cometic head gaskets and his is fine. so im gettin mine machined and fittin 1.6mm gaskets to be sure.
hop this helps
i've just bought a 2.5 forged closed deck from roger clark. hoping its worth every penny but it defo expensive.
for engine, arp head bolts, gaskets, oil pump, water pump, sump, oil cooler modine, belts, filters oils etc i was 3200 all in.
my mate went for a nitrided crank, forged rods and mahle pistons, came with oil cooler modine, pump head gaskets he was 1700 all in.
i think if your going the distance chuck in the 2.5 i've heard on here you need to machine out the standard heads for the 2.5 or if over rev'd the pistons will hit. but then someone said he fitted 1.6 mm cometic head gaskets and his is fine. so im gettin mine machined and fittin 1.6mm gaskets to be sure.
hop this helps
#4
I'm not so sure it's a big end. Could it be a tappet or something else as it wouldn't rev up without missing and spluttering once it started knocking. This was under load on a dyno today by the way so I don't see how rough running / missing could be a big end bearing. Thoughts?
#5
melted piston, big end cld be so bad its hit valves.
you say it was on a rolling road? can the dyno tester not tell you what the engine noise is if he can't then hes not a very good dyno tester!
tappets don't make the same noise as a big end failure mate.
with big end going timing could of jumped or anythin.
regardless of what it is it needs investigation
you say it was on a rolling road? can the dyno tester not tell you what the engine noise is if he can't then hes not a very good dyno tester!
tappets don't make the same noise as a big end failure mate.
with big end going timing could of jumped or anythin.
regardless of what it is it needs investigation
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Melted piston would be my guess from the description of the failure. It is unlikely that the tuner would have had much warning if running flat out on the rollers, as perfect to scrap can be a matter of seconds when a piston breaks or degrades.
There ought to have been some knock detection before the failure, but even then it is usually too late - as the noise is after the failure.
Late rods or steel rods and forged pistons would make sense right now.
If I can help call me and l'll put a parts-to-rebuild package together for you :- 2.0 will be cheaper than 2.5.
Good Luck David APi
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There ought to have been some knock detection before the failure, but even then it is usually too late - as the noise is after the failure.
Late rods or steel rods and forged pistons would make sense right now.
If I can help call me and l'll put a parts-to-rebuild package together for you :- 2.0 will be cheaper than 2.5.
Good Luck David APi
Agents for:
Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Scoobysportexhausts
Eibach suspension
Hybrid front mount intercooler kits
AP Racing brakes and clutches
And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch
www.apiengines.com
01926 614333
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