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Old 10 November 2008, 09:26 PM
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Is there any reason not many people here use the Owen Developments Turbos,
As an Authorised Garret Dealer anything you get from them will have the genuine parts, They custom make turbos and they have some very good garret hybrids, And it cant be said these are not real garrets as they have a garret core and a custom made housing developed by a garret dealer,
Why arn't they popular or frequently used? any reasons???

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Originally Posted by Badbird
Is there any reason not many people here use the Owen Developments Turbos,
As an Authorised Garret Dealer anything you get from them will have the genuine parts, They custom make turbos and they have some very good garret hybrids, And it cant be said these are not real garrets as they have a garret core and a custom made housing developed by a garret dealer,
Why arn't they popular or frequently used? any reasons???

Ive got the 475+ on mine for over 12 months and its been brilliant, just need the tracktive exhaust to go with it lol. Owens were very good as they built mine especially with a machined inlet so that I could put it in standard position as mine is a 94 with 90 degre elbow.

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ok dougie i will sort that out i need to take a photo bare with me mate the weathers **** down here

Know anyone lookin for a V3 type R by any chance???
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Originally Posted by Badbird
ok dougie i will sort that out i need to take a photo bare with me mate the weathers **** down here

Know anyone lookin for a V3 type R by any chance???
No probs I was only having a joke


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When I was looking, Lateral Performance (Mark !) were the biggest seller imho, and sales reflect the price and reputation of the product.

Not saying anything bad about Owen's product, but mine bolted straight on and that's nice and easy, the deal I got for a raft of extras helped swallowing the final bill !

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Lateral's MD321 series is just so widely proven as doing the business that most others dont stand much of a chance. Why risk £1000 when an MD321 will gtee the results your car deserves?
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An Owen Turbo did not seem to hamper a Newage car to crack the 10's, whilst still in standard position.

As regards to other turbo's......

A couple of turbos are already coming on to the market that are starting to prove their worth..... and they are not MD321's.
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whats the max power on the MD321 on pump gas on a 2.5 assuming everything else is equal ie the engine is strong enough to take max power?
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I had 490/490 on straight tesco 99 on a safe track map
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Lateral's MD321 series is just so widely proven as doing the business that most others dont stand much of a chance. Why risk £1000 when an MD321 will gtee the results your car deserves?

It hardly seems a risk buying a subaru specific turbo from prodrives prefered supplier of turbos,
Im shure the MD321 will give those results but that dosnt mean no others will, Or possibly others could be better,

lets face it without experimentation nothing will ever progress,
we Have all heard the virtues of the MD321 enough, So im asking who has used the Owen/Garret or who has had good results from other turbos and im talking approaching 500 hp without being rotated I beleive Tracktive solutions had over 500 hp with the owen turbo in stock location Any one know??
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No std position turbo has got more than 500bhp on std fuel that I am aware of

Shaun's AET got 498bhp but that was with £3k's worth of trick cosworth heads and cams aswell.

My MD321V got 490 on std UK heads/cams/std ecu/std maf

i understand what you are saying about experimentation, believe me when I say that I have had a few turbos on my car. Nothing comes close to what is on there now though. If you want something that is repeatable on normal cars ...

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No std position turbo has got more than 500bhp on std fuel that I am aware of

As far as I know several standard position turbos have exceeded 500 bhp on Optimax/V-Power, my Ion Turbo for starters.
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I havent seen the dyno sheets for that Harvey - can you post them?
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Badbird,
I have already acheived 525bhp on an AET turbo...... that was done 12 months ago on pump fuel (Duncan.... your memory must be failing lol).

Something I have learnt, is that it is not all about peak power. I would be interested in seeing how close (or how far) "other" set-ups are to my lowdown grunt. I really am impressed..... like really impressed, with the latest AET turbo that was fitted last month.
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Yes, it happens when you get old innit

What dyno was that on?
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PowerStation's..... I appreciate that there are differences between dyno's though, but that map at that time was optimum, unlike the one used for the Zen run.

Let's see what it does when it goes back to Zen for a comparison run.
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To throw in a question about huge standard position turbos, did anyone exept Banny use a RCM GT35-P20 hybrid and what results on a 2.0l?
Turbo won´t reach full boost before 4000rpm right?!
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can i ask what AET turbo your running is it the GT3076?
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Originally Posted by Austrian Impreza
To throw in a question about huge standard position turbos, did anyone exept Banny use a RCM GT35-P20 hybrid and what results on a 2.0l?
Turbo won´t reach full boost before 4000rpm right?!
Mine will make 1.7 bar at 3000
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Badbird,
I have no idea of the product code, but it uses a Garret core. AFAIK it was the first one from AET based on comp housing, wheel spec and exhaust housing spec. It is the 3rd or 4th turbo I have tried from them, and I am really happy with how it performs. You would be best to contact AET (AET-TURBOS.CO.UK are the #1 recognised specialists in turbos, turbochargers, design, build and repair of all turbo and custom turbos, rebuilt turbos, dyno tuning, a) and speak to Andy Taylor. Mention me and he will know which turbo you are enquiring about. I am sure he will be happy to answer your questions.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Mine will make 1.7 bar at 3000

On your 2.5 litre AVCS heads, don't suppose for a second it would make that on a stock headed 2 litre.
Your results are impressive Duncan but there are other turbos out there that will produce similar results.
From memory Scoobyclinic and their partners in the US broke the world 1/4 mile record for a bolt on turbo recently with a turbo similar to one I have on trial at the moment.

Blouch Turbo Inc. - Our performance turbo upgrades and rebuilds
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Based on Scoobyclinic's website (and this is certainly no dig), but does this mean I have broken / or nearly broken the UK record for power from a standard position turbo then at 485/550 @ the hubs on VPower?

I will have to tell Tracktive about that record for the 1/4m..... I'm sure Richard will be interested to get his car back out and acheive official status.
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
On your 2.5 litre AVCS heads, don't suppose for a second it would make that on a stock headed 2 litre.
Your results are impressive Duncan but there are other turbos out there that will produce similar results.
From memory Scoobyclinic and their partners in the US broke the world 1/4 mile record for a bolt on turbo recently with a turbo similar to one I have on trial at the moment.

Blouch Turbo Inc. - Our performance turbo upgrades and rebuilds
It'd be interesting to see how 580 US horses translates into a properly corrected calculation of HP

Looks a good turbo though.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
It'd be interesting to see how 580 US horses translates into a properly corrected calculation of HP

Looks a good turbo though.

Trust me im an expert in american horsepower.....Its a standing joke in the drag racing comunity, a dyno can be made to say whatever you want it to say...and the bigger the numbers the more sales...
we often see big dyno sheets but on the track they are usualy beat by home grown stuff
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Originally Posted by dynamix
It'd be interesting to see how 580 US horses translates into a properly corrected calculation of HP

Looks a good turbo though.
Me too Duncan, will know soon enough.
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