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Old 18 November 2008, 06:09 PM
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hi there just got a quick couple of questions was going to buy a top mounted intercooler just wanted to know does it put much bhp on the car, also when fitting it do i need any gaskets and if so wheres the cheapest place to get them thanks for your help hope to hear from some people soon
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what have you got at the moment?

if you're fitting a TMIC I presuming you either have a front mounted intercooler which is generally an upgrade from a top mount, or you dont have an intercooler, which means you wont have a turbo which means its pointless as far as I know.

Someone please correct me if I am mistaken .....
Old 18 November 2008, 06:19 PM
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probably a sport, if so then pointless getting a top mount

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Old 18 November 2008, 06:30 PM
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it is a turbo its a wrx import 1996 already have a intercooler but a standard one the one i am supposed to be buying is an uprated unit
Old 18 November 2008, 06:33 PM
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sti top mount can handle 400 bhp and u will see a big differnce from a standard slanted cooler ....

Go front mount for over 400
Old 18 November 2008, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mark ward
sti top mount can handle 400 bhp and u will see a big differnce from a standard slanted cooler ....

Go front mount for over 400
So as an example, an STI top mount will fit onto my 1993 WRX-Ra without to many hitches......

Cause my steel one is looking like scrap these days, plus the top mount will only be on till i have my FMIC fitted
Old 19 November 2008, 11:02 PM
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BTTT
Old 20 November 2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
BTTT
whats that mean then
Old 20 November 2008, 07:28 PM
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I know its not much help but I cleaned mine ( i was very bored) coooooooorrrrr
look at her
Old 20 November 2008, 07:31 PM
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Tim,where did you get your solenoid cover fixings from (the 2 quick release thingys)
Old 20 November 2008, 07:35 PM
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It was from a main dealer, Its an APS part. I will have a quick look through my bills and see if I have a product code for it
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cant find it in the bills, I will have a look under the bonnet tomorrow, There will be something on it somewhere!!
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nice one cheers,i have the cover but no fixings so its just those i am after
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
I know its not much help but I cleaned mine ( i was very bored) coooooooorrrrr
look at her

Bu##er me that looks sweet and it would be nice to do the same, however I don't really want to spend to much time and money on a top mount cause its having a front mount soon-ish......I just think my steel one looks worse than Steptoes scrap cart....
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Originally Posted by scoopscooby
it is a turbo its a wrx import 1996 already have a intercooler but a standard one the one i am supposed to be buying is an uprated unit
I looked into the "Which Intercooler to fit" thing in depth before fitting a STi8 one to my 03 WRX.

The results of this trial are useful when researching TMIC's

Top-Mount Trial - Part One
Part One

Top-Mount Trial - Part Two
Part Two

Whilst looking I came across lots of stuff on intercoolers but this is probably of most use to what you may want to try.

It's for a 95 with the twisted original one being replaced with a STi5 one.

CLICK for Guide to fitting an STi 5 intercooler to a MY95 WRX

It was much easier putting a bigger one on my 2003 WRX.



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Originally Posted by scoopscooby
whats that mean then
'back to the top'

gets the thread back to the top of the listings
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
So as an example, an STI top mount will fit onto my 1993 WRX-Ra without to many hitches......

Cause my steel one is looking like scrap these days, plus the top mount will only be on till i have my FMIC fitted
why bother with the extra expense of getting a new tmic while you wait for an fmic ?? spend the money on something else
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Originally Posted by IainMilford
why bother with the extra expense of getting a new tmic while you wait for an fmic ?? spend the money on something else

Because it looks crap & i know its there.......I know
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Tim, how does the MAF sensor cope with having the induction kit fitted. I normally run a GEMS which uses a MAP sensor so is okay with a K&N fitted to the intake pipe but when theOE ECU and MAF sensor is refitted and the filter bolted on the engine is eratic and stalls. The readings from the OE ECU (being set up for MOT time) the lambda sensing is way out, so it would not pass the MOT even on the standard ECU.

Thanks steve

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Old 22 November 2008, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
Because it looks crap & i know its there.......I know
I know the feeling.

Two weeks after I had my car I found a couple of very fine scratches on the rear wings. I couldn't sleep that night
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Fitting an STi 5 or 6 TMIC in place of the 93-96 slanted TMIC is a lot harder to do than it looks from initial inspection. Fitting an STi 8 to a 93-96 is also not easy.
Do a search. It has been covered regularly.
Fitting an FMIC of proven ability and quality is far easier and probably more cost effective than a secondhand TMIC.
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Originally Posted by harvey
...Fitting an FMIC of proven ability and quality is far easier and probably more cost effective than a secondhand TMIC.
Not to mention a far safer running engine due to significantly reduced intake temps across the board... especially with regard to heatsoak after being on boost for a while and then coming to a standstll e.g. at traffic lights...

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Originally Posted by harvey
Fitting an STi 5 or 6 TMIC in place of the 93-96 slanted TMIC is a lot harder to do than it looks from initial inspection. Fitting an STi 8 to a 93-96 is also not easy.
Do a search. It has been covered regularly.
Am I invisible?

Originally Posted by FLAT ERIC

Post 15. 20 November 2008, 22:39

Whilst looking I came across lots of stuff on intercoolers but this is probably of most use to what you may want to try.

It's for a 95 with the twisted original one being replaced with a STi5 one.

CLICK for Guide to fitting an STi 5 intercooler to a MY95 WRX
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thanks guy's and to your point harvey i'll leave alone till i go FMIC.....

Save my pennies
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Thanks for drawing that to my attention Eric. Sorry I missed it due to skim reading.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Not to mention a far safer running engine due to significantly reduced intake temps across the board... especially with regard to heatsoak after being on boost for a while and then coming to a standstll e.g. at traffic lights...
Joz,

I,m with you on this, but is one really worth fitting fpr 300-350bhp?? surely a new age STI 8 cooler etc will be ok?? well that,s what i,m planning anyway.

What,s everyone think on this??


Edited to say,

What,s a good make of FMIC on the market today folks?? price,quality,fitting wise etc??

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staffi, AFAIK the STi8 TMIC is easily good for those figure, even upto 400bhp (I think).

But as we both agree, the MAIN concern is not the numbers, but safety. If you go hooning with 350+ with the top mount in, say, summer, and have to stop at traffic lights for any length of time... then sorry, but no traffic light grand prix for you - unless you want to det your engine to oblivion! TMICs are okay, but in situations like the above, then you always have to be on the ball thinking about intake temps....

If you had the FMIC, then you won't even have to give your intake temps. a second thought.

Will you take her on the track? If so, then I'd defo go for a FMIC (only my personal opinion of course).

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Joz,

It might see the odd trackday yes, but it,s mainly a weekend fun car tbh, i think i might go for the FMIC upgrade tbh, i,ll give Richard a call @ Tractive has it,s him who,s dne all the work on this car etc..

Cheers fella..
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FMIC do look good


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