Can Someone Educate me About the Version 5/6 Type R
27 January 2009, 10:21 AM
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Can Someone Educate me About the Version 5/6 Type R
ok ive always wanted a version 5 type r partly because ive had everythign else and the looks of the 2 door ones are just awesome!
now i dont really know much about the performance except it has a closer ration egarbox and DCCD. ive never used or been in a car with DCCD? is there any real benefit of it in a completely road fast road car?
speakign with someone today and says they are just dangerous and a normal sti is better for the road. According to him he had one and it just span.. might just be lying... i dunno but hey
do the years im talking of come with auto DCCD?
what else should i know about the type rs?
sorry for the noob question, thought id ask and learn
now i dont really know much about the performance except it has a closer ration egarbox and DCCD. ive never used or been in a car with DCCD? is there any real benefit of it in a completely road fast road car?
speakign with someone today and says they are just dangerous and a normal sti is better for the road. According to him he had one and it just span.. might just be lying... i dunno but hey
do the years im talking of come with auto DCCD?
what else should i know about the type rs?
sorry for the noob question, thought id ask and learn
27 January 2009, 12:28 PM
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you can play with the dccd on an airfield and see how each step changes the way the power is distributed, get to learn that and have a bit more fun but dangerous? no.There is a post by John Felstead explaining all about the DCCD
someone will post that up for you Tony
27 January 2009, 01:47 PM
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DCCD is vastly superior to a stock VC if used correctly, not only does it offer a rear biased torque split (what all scoobs should have - if Audi, Jaguar and Ford can do it then.....) but allows you to adjust the amount of limited slip, minimum LSD function for tail out action through to locked for 1/4's or snow!
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27 January 2009, 01:56 PM
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cheers, very good article that
thats a better understanding, actually sound spretty good! something more to look forward to
with regards to the newage auto DCCD any real benefit to this?
thats a better understanding, actually sound spretty good! something more to look forward to
with regards to the newage auto DCCD any real benefit to this?
27 January 2009, 03:33 PM
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also having read this now .. i can now understand why the P1 is good and sought after..
so if you were to compare the P1 and a Version 5/6 Classic Type R which would be the one to have? performance wise
so if you were to compare the P1 and a Version 5/6 Classic Type R which would be the one to have? performance wise
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27 January 2009, 03:43 PM
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very good fun though!Tony
27 January 2009, 03:46 PM
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The P1 is a good car for what you get, you dont need to worry about having to fiddle around with the dccd (though it has ABS where as DCCD classics didnt) but A-DCCD cars have ABS.
Then it all depends on what your after, a bit more fun then the type R, a nice quick a-b then the P1
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Then it all depends on what your after, a bit more fun then the type R, a nice quick a-b then the P1
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27 January 2009, 03:50 PM
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type r then for me
so the P1s dont have DCCD? i must have misunderstood then, dont want one then as it wont be much different from my version 6 classic sti i had.. apart from 2 doors lol
so the P1s dont have DCCD? i must have misunderstood then, dont want one then as it wont be much different from my version 6 classic sti i had.. apart from 2 doors lol
27 January 2009, 03:59 PM
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eggy, are you 'good' at handling oversteer/do you like it?!
If not, then I'd pass on the Type R and get a regular 4-door v.5 STi.
My mate had a v.5 Type R and had an accident coming off a roundabout in those horrible, cold, hard to read, "is it damp, or isn't it?" conditions... at night! He gave the smallest bit of gas before the apex and got a tank-slapper on and eventually spun round 135deg so that the passenger side wing was at a 45deg angle to the central reservation that he crashed into!...
If not, then I'd pass on the Type R and get a regular 4-door v.5 STi.
My mate had a v.5 Type R and had an accident coming off a roundabout in those horrible, cold, hard to read, "is it damp, or isn't it?" conditions... at night! He gave the smallest bit of gas before the apex and got a tank-slapper on and eventually spun round 135deg so that the passenger side wing was at a 45deg angle to the central reservation that he crashed into!...
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27 January 2009, 04:04 PM
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i wouldnt say im good at it but id like to learn.. (got a day at bill gwynne rally school booked to)as i usually go on drives with mates on country roads etc..
just thinking of going for something different this time as all my mates have had normal sti classics.. no one has had a 2 door type r or a p1.. or even an RA so thought id be different this time..
lol wat the hell is wrong with me hey who in there right mind buys the same car 3 times and now wants a 4th .. i cant get enough of them
just thinking of going for something different this time as all my mates have had normal sti classics.. no one has had a 2 door type r or a p1.. or even an RA so thought id be different this time..
lol wat the hell is wrong with me hey who in there right mind buys the same car 3 times and now wants a 4th .. i cant get enough of them
27 January 2009, 04:10 PM
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lol your right! im spoilt big time! i blame my dad for getting me one to begin with i mean i only turned 21 2 months ago and others would love to have these cars at my age i just cant seem to settle with anything slower
doesnt help when my parents live in bradford and whenever i go to see them i see 100 scoobs
i mean i only turned 21 2 months ago and others would love to have these cars at my age i just cant seem to settle with anything slower doesnt help when my parents live in bradford and whenever i go to see them i see 100 scoobs
27 January 2009, 04:18 PM
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Owned mine over 3 years now and Ive lost count of the times Ive pulled sharply out of a junction with a bit of lock on in wet conditions, just lit up the rear wheels and ended up doing a 180.
Sounds fun but sat facing the wrong way with a line of traffic thinking your a complete looser, struggling to do a 3-point-turn aint much fun.
Who am I kidding, wouldn't want it any other way..... awesome machine!!
I heard sideways is the quickest way forward.
Sounds fun but sat facing the wrong way with a line of traffic thinking your a complete looser, struggling to do a 3-point-turn aint much fun.
Who am I kidding, wouldn't want it any other way..... awesome machine!!
I heard sideways is the quickest way forward.
27 January 2009, 06:50 PM
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Or you could always have a P1 like mine with a 6 speed dccd I like to think of it as my P1 Type R.
I used to have the 5 speed dccd as you can just swap the viscous diff transfer gears on a P1 for the dccd diff and transfer gears as a bolt on/bolt off mod. You can just drive it like that so it's 65R 35F the whole time or you can wire it up with the original ecu diff etc and control the diff as i did.
Even with 450bhp and over 2 years I haven't managed to spin it yet although I've had plenty of controllable slides in it. Anybody who spins it lots of times needs to look more at their driving not the car. After all, there are plenty of rear drive cars out there with similar power (M3's, Tvrs, Carrera 2s, etc) that people seem able to drive around in without falling off the black stuff all the time.
I like to think of it as my P1 Type R.I used to have the 5 speed dccd as you can just swap the viscous diff transfer gears on a P1 for the dccd diff and transfer gears as a bolt on/bolt off mod. You can just drive it like that so it's 65R 35F the whole time or you can wire it up with the original ecu diff etc and control the diff as i did.
Even with 450bhp and over 2 years I haven't managed to spin it yet although I've had plenty of controllable slides in it. Anybody who spins it lots of times needs to look more at their driving not the car. After all, there are plenty of rear drive cars out there with similar power (M3's, Tvrs, Carrera 2s, etc) that people seem able to drive around in without falling off the black stuff all the time.
27 January 2009, 10:14 PM
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) for 50:50 transmission lock - ONLY to be used for straight-lining (drag 1/4m... or traffic light grand prix ), plus for low coefficient friction surfaces e.g snow, very loose gravel.Fully rearward to bottom green for 35:65 (or forward one light to the penultimate green), for all other driving...
28 January 2009, 08:07 AM
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cheers,sounds like i'll defo need to play with the settings a bit and practice.. should be fun, at the end of the day it is meant to be my 'fun' car that puts a smile on my face lol not like the bora i drive daily
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